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    wow, looks like prince fielder traded to Rangers

    For Ian kinsler. Don't know all details. If true probably end of Mitch Moreland career at first base for rangers.

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    Good move by Detroit. Allows them to sign Scherzer and gets rid of Fielder's massive contract.

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    Great trade for both teams:

    1. Allows Detroit to move Cabrera back to 1st and put Nick Castellanos at 3rd.

    2. Frees up money for Detroit to re-sign Max Scherzer

    3. Gives Detroit an offensive 2nd baseman that we will need due to losing offense at SS by making the transition from Peralta to Iglesias

    4. Gives Texas a middle of the order left handed power power guy. Could replace Josh Hamilton lineup impact in that ball park. could.....

    Ramifications:

    1. The Cardinals should just sign Stephen Drew or shop somewhere else because the Rangers now have all the leverage in negotiations for Profar because he now has a position. Stephen Drew's market goes up due to this trade.

    2. Mitch Moreland should now be on the market since the Rangers have virtually no use for him.

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    Moreland could be a backup first baseman, rightfielder or bench player. Don't think he would be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bully99 View Post
    Moreland could be a backup first baseman, rightfielder or bench player. Don't think he would be happy.
    Doesn't make much sense for the Rangers to do that since both Fielder and Moreland are left handed. Texas will probably try to acquire a right handed hitter to take Mitch's spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post

    1. The Cardinals should just sign Stephen Drew or shop somewhere else.
    Jed Lowrie

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    Quote Originally Posted by bully99 View Post
    Moreland could be a backup first baseman, rightfielder or bench player. Don't think he would be happy.
    He won't be offered arbitration to be a backup. He will be elsewhere.

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    I think it's good for Rangers too if not better. Fielder will rake that ballpark and it opens up a spot for Profar, who is really cheap for a few more years. Kinsler is injury prone at this point in his career. And the cost of Kinslers contract with him being hurt vs the money and production in Fielder and the cost of Profar I think is a good deal.

    Rangers have money and haven't really spent a whole lot. They get a huge bat for current market price while shedding older player contract and opening up young star spot. I think the Rangers did very well in this deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    Jed Lowrie
    Lowrie would work as well, but Lowrie will also be a free agent after the 2014 season. So, IMO, St. Louis shouldn't do a deal for Lowrie unless he was willing to sign an extension.

    Furthermore, to get Lowrie you would have to make a trade with Oakland and give up a really good prospect whereas if you sign Drew you give up the 31st pick in the draft, which would amount to probably a projected average MLB player. Maybe Matt Adams or Kolten Wong.

    So the Cardinals could go either way. Just depends on whether Lowrie will sign an extension and if the Oakland will make a trade for a reasonable price.

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    Arent the Rangers losing both corner outfielders? If Moreland stays in Texas, I would look for him to take over in RF for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereComesTheSpiral View Post
    Arent the Rangers losing both corner outfielders? If Moreland stays in Texas, I would look for him to take over in RF for now.
    Alex Rios is back and David Murphy signed with the Indians yesterday. So the Rangers must replace just LF.

    They could resign Nelson Cruz (Not likely), pay Craig Gentry arbitration and give him a chance to start everyday (Not what they want to do), or try to sign Shin Soo Choo (Would very much like to do this). Engel Beltre could also factor in, but I don't think he is an everyday player on a championship team.

    In addition, they could also look into what Carlos Beltran would cost or take a chance on Johnny Peralta playing left (Could be an interesting concept.)

    Also wouldn't be surprised to see the Rangers sign Michael Young at a discounted rate, to be their utility guy/backup first baseman.
    Last edited by ShotgunDawg; 11-20-2013 at 09:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Lowrie would work as well, but Lowrie will also be a free agent after the 2014 season. So, IMO, St. Louis shouldn't do a deal for Lowrie unless he was willing to sign an extension.

    Furthermore, to get Lowrie you would have to make a trade with Oakland and give up a really good prospect whereas if you sign Drew you give up the 31st pick in the draft, which would amount to probably a projected average MLB player. Maybe Matt Adams or Kolten Wong.

    So the Cardinals could go either way. Just depends on whether Lowrie will sign an extension and if the Oakland will make a trade for a reasonable price.
    Oakland just signed Punto to be able to trade Jed. Drew is, by definition, a average MLB player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    Oakland just signed Punto to be able to trade Jed. Drew is, by definition, a average MLB player.
    Yes he is an average player, but that is a major upgrade for the Cardinals as an average MLB SS is a good player.

    I believe that Oakland will trade Lowrie, but the Cardinals have to weigh the positives and negative of both. For me, Lowrie would have to open to signing an extension for it to happen. No sense in giving up a good prospect for a one year fix.

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    Saw a tweet in which someone predicted Andrus to be traded to the Cardinals, Profar to SS, and Cano to 2nd base. That would be interesting.

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    That would be interesting indeed. Boras is a magician.

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    Appropriate Fielder going to Rangers, because everything is bigger in Texas as they say.

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    i think this is a solid deal for both teams. obviously there are other moves that need to be made for both to work out optimally, but on the surface, both arguably improved today imo. fielder will likely out produce kinsler the next couple of years, but kinsler's contract isn't nearly as long or pricey as fielder's either.

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    Not buying this as a good move for Detroit. Fielder protected Miggy. Whose taking up that job for them now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Not buying this as a good move for Detroit. Fielder protected Miggy. Whose taking up that job for them now?
    No brainer great move for Detroit.

    Read this:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/tiger...t-even-better/

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    That's great and all but it doesn't answer who will protect your triple crown winner now? You lose Fielder's bat and you'll see a drop in production from Cabrera.

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