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01-08-2022, 10:36 PM
#101
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Might wanna recheck that. SC won scoring the same total. Offense wasn't the problem... defense was. Freaking Murrell went off
Doesn't that happen a good bit to us? Our perimeter D has never been stellar under Howland. It's the way we defend screens. Our Defensive stats can be misleading due to our pace.
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01-08-2022, 10:36 PM
#102
Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
.. but he can't coach that way.
He can't 'coach' .. period! Pitiful.. just pitiful!
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01-08-2022, 10:42 PM
#103
So just to be clear, Howland is in year 7 with a ton of talent, Novac is in year 1 after walking into a terrible situation and Novac has 2 better wins and a much more disciplined/consistent team.
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01-08-2022, 10:42 PM
#104
Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Doesn't that happen a good bit to us? Our perimeter D has never been stellar under Howland. It's the way we defend screens. Our Defensive stats can be misleading due to our pace.
Murrell entered the game as a 36.6% shooter, so I don't think him shooting 10/11 (.91) is normal
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01-08-2022, 10:52 PM
#105
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Murrell entered the game as a 36.6% shooter, so I don't think him shooting 10/11 (.91) is normal
To your earlier comment about Tolu, Paul said it was not discipline related.
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01-08-2022, 10:52 PM
#106
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Yeah we seem to always have the athletes to do it but Howland can't seem to coach that.
Not defending Howland but State doesn't have any better athletes than most sec school. I'd say State isn't as athletic as some. Murrel went up knowing nobody was blocking his shot. Also nobody could handle #3.
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01-08-2022, 10:57 PM
#107
Originally Posted by
Cowbell
To your earlier comment about Tolu, Paul said it was not discipline related.
Good, but what the hell is so secretive about it?
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01-08-2022, 10:58 PM
#108
If this season tanks, which looks highly likely, no other evidence needed to prove Howland no longer has the physical or mental energy required and I wouldn't be surprised if laziness and not give a shit hadn't crept in as well. He's prolly missing that So-Cal Cuisine.
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01-08-2022, 10:59 PM
#109
Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
Not defending Howland but State doesn't have any better athletes than most sec school. I'd say State isn't as athletic as some. Murrel went up knowing nobody was blocking his shot. Also nobody could handle #3.
I agree with that I'm talking more about the pace of play. We hardly ever run and we move extremely slow on offense. We have enough talented players to run more and use their athleticism
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01-08-2022, 11:06 PM
#110
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
I agree with that I'm talking more about the pace of play. We hardly ever run and we move extremely slow on offense. We have enough talented players to run more and use their athleticism
We're not being COACHED to pick up the pace. Low Energy Coach = Low Energy Team.
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01-08-2022, 11:18 PM
#111
Originally Posted by
OLJWales
We're not being COACHED to pick up the pace. Low Energy Coach = Low Energy Team.
Yes it's almost like watching paint dry.
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01-08-2022, 11:49 PM
#112
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Good, but what the hell is so secretive about it?
There's a new cannabis strand called "Moultrie Knee"; I hear it slams...***
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01-08-2022, 11:52 PM
#113
Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
There's a new cannabis strand called "Moultrie Knee"; I hear it slams...***
LMAO. Those were some funny assed threads. "Big Feces" Rocked too. Gotta laugh to keep from cryin' sometimes I reckon.
Last edited by OLJWales; 01-08-2022 at 11:54 PM.
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01-09-2022, 12:06 AM
#114
We are an offense in slow motion compared to just about every other college basketball team. We don't have much movement to set up shots. It's more like just past the ball around some. It's more of hit and miss (no innovation or creativity) offensive strategy, and it seems to be more misses than hits.
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01-09-2022, 12:14 AM
#115
Originally Posted by
yjnkdawg
We are an offense in slow motion compared to just about every other college basketball team. We don't have much movement to set up shots. It's more like just past the ball around some. It's more of hit and miss (no innovation or creativity) offensive strategy, and it seems to be more misses than hits.
Pretty much the same knock on Ben when he was at UCLA and when we hired him.
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01-09-2022, 01:03 AM
#116
And we don't have any player who is a go to guy for 3s.
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01-09-2022, 01:09 AM
#117
Originally Posted by
yjnkdawg
We are an offense in slow motion compared to just about every other college basketball team. We don't have much movement to set up shots. It's more like just past the ball around some. It's more of hit and miss (no innovation or creativity) offensive strategy, and it seems to be more misses than hits.
This is the reason for the long stretches every game where we don't score points.
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01-09-2022, 01:14 AM
#118
Originally Posted by
yjnkdawg
We are an offense in slow motion compared to just about every other college basketball team. We don't have much movement to set up shots. It's more like just past the ball around some. It's more of hit and miss (no innovation or creativity) offensive strategy, and it seems to be more misses than hits.
We still run the damn weave.
Disclaimer: I don't want Howland fired
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01-09-2022, 03:50 AM
#119
Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
I truly think our teams have talent but lack IQ. It?s been the same with every Howland team. Talent out the wazoo but very little between the ears.
The constant in that scenario is Howland. He obviously can't get the good out his players anymore and his offense sucks ass and his D now does too. Bye bye for good. I hope they win it all, but I'm done till Howland is gone.
Last edited by Bdawg; 01-09-2022 at 03:58 AM.
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01-09-2022, 08:02 AM
#120
Well that was my first game to attend in person this season of MSU basketball and I can honestly say that I know at least 3 or 4 high school coaches who are more efficient teachers of offensive ball movement and moving without the ball on offense. I have no idea what the MSU defensive strategy actually was. There was no anticipation and favoring passing lanes. A better effort was made on D in parts of the 2nd half but Howland never had an answer for the 7 footer which in my view helped the 3 ball shooters have more space. This type effort will lead to no road wins in conference play.
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