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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Strange to think we might have had a better chance to sign him if he hadn't committed.
Well he decided to play the recruiting game and that just doesn't seem to sit well with Leach. I think Leach would have more respect for the player if he just didn't commit say he was very interested and go from there. I believe commitment to Leach and these kids may have a little different meaning(and me for that matter). I certainly don't believe Leach likes being a placeholder for a "committed" player only to get possibly spurned if a better "opportunity" comes along.
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Originally Posted by
Bdawg
Well he decided to play the recruiting game and that just doesn't seem to sit well with Leach. I think Leach would have more respect for the player if he just didn't commit say he was very interested and go from there. I believe commitment to Leach and these kids may have a little different meaning(and me for that matter). I certainly don't believe Leach likes being a placeholder for a "committed" player only to get possibly spurned if a better "opportunity" comes along.
Let's not play the our staff know the meaning of commitment game. ESP when we've dropped 4-5 kids just this cycle who have been loyal to MSU & played no games.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Let's not play the our staff know the meaning of commitment game. ESP when we've dropped 4-5 kids just this cycle who have been loyal to MSU & played no games.
Those guys have zero to do with what we are talking about. Those guys may have wanted to come to State but either their SR film didn't stack up and proved to not be SEC material. I don't know every in and out of each one there situation, but if guys are asked to moved on there is a reason for it. Cam East is totally different. He's keeping us as a backup now, and maybe others are not good enough. Don't know why you even bring them up.
Edit: I do realize what you saying now. But if we are upfront with those guys and tell them they have regressed and went backwards or they didn't improve enough over there senior year, there is no need than them coming here and sitting the bench and transferring later because they can't get on the field.
Last edited by Bdawg; 12-04-2021 at 07:44 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Let's not play the our staff know the meaning of commitment game. ESP when we've dropped 4-5 kids just this cycle who have been loyal to MSU & played no games.
There’s no doubt about it that’s the name of the game but this close to early signing period and someone has consistently acted shady it’s prudent to cut them loose. Especially when all signs point to a set up. I’m fine with not playing games like that because state is always left looking like the jilted lover. If you are clearly in the game then yeah keep playing to have them sign but when all signs point to something else it’s best for state to move on.
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It is much better strategy to sign a slightly less talented player in December then sign no player for that position in February because one of our ?commits? wanted to enjoy the process. I like this policy.
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Originally Posted by
HaggardDawg
It is much better strategy to sign a slightly less talented player in December then sign no player for that position in February because one of our ?commits? wanted to enjoy the process. I like this policy.
I think you can save a couple of spots for guys like East. If they end up not signing, you still have the portal.
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I don't understand why anyone would want to be at the whims of a high school kid. If he doesn't want to sign now, then tell him we are going to have to look elsewhere. The egos on the kids now are horrible. Way too many people on social media flaming those egos these days.
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Originally Posted by
beerfarley
I don't understand why anyone would want to be at the whims of a high school kid.
I mean, welcome to big boy recruiting. I'm glad you weren't in charge of signing Chris Jones.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
I mean, welcome to big boy recruiting. I'm glad you weren't in charge of signing Chris Jones.
I was writing for recruiting websites then. That's part of the reason I don't do it any longer. They are unbeatable.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
I mean, welcome to big boy recruiting. I'm glad you weren't in charge of signing Chris Jones.
Chris Jones was a different era before the early NSD. I would imagine that he would have signed early because if I remember correctly he blew up at the Under Armour All-Star Game in January.
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The reason State landed Jones is because he had a close personal relationship with his high school coach. His high school is a State fan.
If it wasn't for that relationship.... well good thing there was that relationship.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
I mean, welcome to big boy recruiting. I'm glad you weren't in charge of signing Chris Jones.
That's when I quit living anf breathing recruiting. I probably lost 3 years off my life stressing Jones
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How many can State sign this year? 25, I assume. We have 15 commits right now per 247. So if Leach's policy is he only signs commits, then he is going to be short a number of guys in EP.
Hopefully State is allowing the kid to look around and Leach and company will continue to put the full court press on him. Because a 6-7 OT aren't easy to find.
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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
How many can State sign this year? 25, I assume. We have 15 commits right now per 247. So if Leach's policy is he only signs commits, then he is going to be short a number of guys in EP.
Hopefully State is allowing the kid to look around and Leach and company will continue to put the full court press on him. Because a 6-7 OT aren't easy to find.
Gonna hit the transfer portal too.
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Originally Posted by
Catfish
Gonna hit the transfer portal too.
We gonna have a good many hit the portal too.
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We aren't gonna replace East with a real high school LT prospect. That was just a loss. I don't blame Leach though, we weren't getting East either way.
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I can answer this. It’s clear we were being kept warm as a fall back plan for Cam (and strong hints he was going to be a flipmas guy) once it was clear he was going to string us along our program said we are going to open up your spot. I’m fine with that. Good luck to him.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgology
I can answer this. It’s clear we were being kept warm as a fall back plan for Cam (and strong hints he was going to be a flipmas guy) once it was clear he was going to string us along our program said we are going to open up your spot. I’m fine with that. Good luck to him.
If he signs with OM in Dec we will definitely know the truth. Seems Leach knows when to cut bait and say screw it to these recruiting shenanigans.
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Originally Posted by
Bdawg
If he signs with OM in Dec we will definitely know the truth. Seems Leach knows when to cut bait and say screw it to these recruiting shenanigans.
He's not signing in December
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Will we send him papers in Dec and take his sig if he signs?
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