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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Ehh. They'll take a step back next year. How far will be determined by the portal. What should scare OM fans is he's basically punting on a half a HS class to go strictly portal. That's dangerous if you're building a program.
He's never built a program in his career as a coach. Good offensive mind, but he's never won with his own players. We'll see if putting all your chips in the portal pays off.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
OM and state aren't gonna find a guy capable of winning 9-10 consistently. What both of us should hope for is 7-8 consistently with a 10-win season every 4-5 years. The deck is stacked against us both
You nailed it right here. We split the talent in the state just about every year and neither of us recruit well enough nationally to make a difference.
Perfectly said.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Ehh. They'll take a step back next year. How far will be determined by the portal. What should scare OM fans is he's basically punting on a half a HS class to go strictly portal. That's dangerous if you're building a program.
Exactly. Very risky but that?s how the guy does it.
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Good luck finding a Matt Corrall in the portal. The q bs they are mentioning like the UVA q b or the UCF q b will be about a million times easier to defend.
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
Good luck finding a Matt Corrall in the portal. The q bs they are mentioning like the UVA q b or the UCF q b will be about a million times easier to defend.
And remember they didn't get Corral in the portal. Very rare to find a QB like that- and the unicorn QB's that are in the portal are not looking to go to Ole Miss. See Justin Fields.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
That's equally as risky as Jackie relying heavily on JUCO's. You have to have a core group of players- and Ole Miss had that with their QB and RB to build around. At some point it will catch up with them and when Kiffin leaves their numbers will be way out of whack leaving a massive rebuild.
Y'all are really selling Kinkead Dent short.****
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Y'all are really selling Kinkead Dent short.****
Perhaps! LOL.
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You guys are crazy if you don't think kiffin is on the shortlist at OU. The dude has proven he is a solid hire. Some of you need to take your maroon colored glasses off. He is a better coach than Lincoln Riley every day of the week. Anybody want to debate me let's go....
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
You guys are crazy if you don't think kiffin is on the shortlist at OU. The dude has proven he is a solid hire. Some of you need to take your maroon colored glasses off. He is a better coach than Lincoln Riley every day of the week. Anybody want to debate me let's go....
I don’t think OU would hire a guy like Kiffin. I don’t think he is theirkind of guy, Bob Stoops still has a lot of influence there. JMO
And I’m not saying that because I don’t like Kiffin. There are schools he is a good fit with and there are schools that would view him as a bit sleazy or mercenary. Especially some of the blue bloods.
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
I don?t think OU would hire a guy like Kiffin. I don?t think he is theirkind of guy, Bob Stoops still has a lot of influence there. JMO
And I?m not saying that because I don?t like Kiffin. There are schools he is a good fit with and there are schools that would view him as a bit sleazy or mercenary. Especially some of the blue bloods.
The problem with this line of thinking is that Oklahoma doesn't have a lot of options at this point. And winning is always numero Uno. He has an identical record to Rikey this year in only year 2 at Ole Miss with less talent in a tougher conference.
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
The problem with this line of thinking is that Oklahoma doesn't have a lot of options at this point. And winning is always numero Uno. He has an identical record to Rikey this year in only year 2 at Ole Miss with less talent in a tougher conference.
OU is blue blood with a lot of money. Kiffin is not the only guy they could hire away from a school. Beyond one season with Corrall his overall resume is not that impressive.
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
OU is blue blood with a lot of money. Kiffin is not the only guy they could hire away from a school. Beyond one season with Corrall his overall resume is not that impressive.
Name all the guys they can get that have a better resume
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I'm betting on Kiffin to stand pat. The thing is if he goes to any of those other schools everyone's mentioning him with, his seat starts out warm automatically and won't take much to get hot. His seat is cool at OM now and it would be a while till it warms up any, unless he goes like 3-8 next year maybe.
ETA: I kinda wonder if Dano regrets his decision to leave in 2018. He had a team to compete for SEC and the Natty and he knows he did. He woulda had a lifetime contract if he had been in Natty game against Clemson. I thought he was stupid to take FL job with their fans' expectations.
Last edited by dawgday166; 11-28-2021 at 06:11 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
You guys are crazy if you don't think kiffin is on the shortlist at OU. The dude has proven he is a solid hire. Some of you need to take your maroon colored glasses off. He is a better coach than Lincoln Riley every day of the week. Anybody want to debate me let's go....
The board seems to morphing from hoping kiffin will leave to kiffin isn't gonna be any good without corral. Personally, I think kiffin is really good, and I want him gone ASAP
ETA... on the other hand, if anyone would bring back art briles, it would be OM.
I almost expect them to fire Kermit this year, and go get pitino
Last edited by msstate7; 11-28-2021 at 06:11 PM.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
The board seems to morphing from hoping kiffin will leave to kiffin isn't gonna be any good without corral. Personally, I think kiffin is really good, and I want him gone ASAP
I'd say Kiffin as a coach is on par with Freeze - but more likable and more honest (yes that was scary to type). But, I don't think he will recruit the way OM's nutty fans want and his record will be up and down. He's definitely a thousand steps up from Luke.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
I'd say Kiffin as a coach is on par with Freeze - but more likable and more honest (yes that was scary to type). But, I don't think he will recruit the way OM's nutty fans want and his record will be up and down. He's definitely a thousand steps up from Luke.
This is accurate on all points. Lane doesn't like recruiting and is always gonna depend on portal/transfer guys, and that's gonna be hit or miss.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
I'd say Kiffin as a coach is on par with Freeze - but more likable and more honest (yes that was scary to type). But, I don't think he will recruit the way OM's nutty fans want and his record will be up and down. He's definitely a thousand steps up from Luke.
I think freeze is better bc of recruiting. Hopefully, lane doesn't become the Chris beard of college football with transfers.
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Is Kendell Briles a target for anyone?
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Kiffin isn't getting the blue blood jobs attention because he can't coach. He's not getting the interest because they don't think they can trust him. Most AD's like routine & boring they don't want to worry about what someone is tweeting or a sound bite. The "cool" things that OM fans love now are the exact things that give blue blood AD's pause. They see those things & say he hasn't grown up at all he's still a childish loose cannon. He's matured just not enough.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Kiffin isn't getting the blue blood jobs attention because he can't coach. He's not getting the interest because they don't think they can trust him. Most AD's like routine & boring they don't want to worry about what someone is tweeting or a sound bite. The "cool" things that OM fans love now are the exact things that give blue blood AD's pause. They see those things & say he hasn't grown up at all he's still a childish loose cannon. He's matured just not enough.
So I'm thinking on this one some.
Kiffin may not can coach I guess but in his 9 full seasons of coaching he's won 10 games 4 times. And he just equaled Mullen's best SEC year in his 2nd year at OM. Now all that is with predecessors' recruits for most part I will admit. But he still has to coach them.
And I'm not sure sound bites or twitter causes ADs to pause as much as it's probably the extra-curricular stuff of legend they're more concerned with happening again.
That's just my take. You're privy to a lot more inside info than most of us on here are tho.
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