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Originally Posted by
viverlibre
Without Jamies, he's Dan *******.
Ha! I just told my son same thing. Jimbo is a way better recruiter than Dan though.
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Originally Posted by
BayouDawg
Yes thank you for making my point
Somehow you guys are missing the single most important element of being a college coach, recruiting.
Yeah, but saban would suck without the great players he signed**
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
This guy must be a snake oil salesman extraordinaire, the things they come up with on offense are breathtakingly boneheaded.
Must be? Jimbo is High Freeze on a taller soap box. Same BS persona and sleaziness. I?ll tell you where jimbo will be when he meets his makers. Gonna need some ice. Ask him about covering for crab legs Jamis.
That?s why as a lifelong Saints fan the organization would bring on such a cancer. Police
Reports and public records are that, public. Shit on the Saints too. Everyone all around needs to apologize for anyone else with a brain. Sadly fewer and fewer these days.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
The guy is a walking human disaster, on the field issues are the least of his problems.
I have no idea about his personal life, and I don't care at all.
Wish I were more of a human disaster multi-millionaire
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Somehow you guys are missing the single most important element of being a college coach, recruiting.
Yeah, but saban would suck without the great players he signed**
Again you make my point. Only major program in a talent rich state. This isnt hard.
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Originally Posted by
BayouDawg
Again you make my point. Only major program in a talent rich state. This isnt hard.
Burrow was a cast off, and O and brady turned him into #1 pick heisman winner.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Burrow was a cast off, and O and brady turned him into #1 pick heisman winner.
Brady moreso and he had an elite D coordinator. Please continue making my point.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I have no idea about his personal life, and I don't care at all.
Wish I were more of a human disaster multi-millionaire
The point you are missing is that these guys all caught lightning in a bottle with one or two special players and they couldn?t maintain the success. Some got fired others moved on and can?t repeat that success. They all sucked millions from the respective programs. A perverted and upside down system.
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Originally Posted by
BayouDawg
Brady moreso and he had an elite D coordinator. Please continue making my point.
Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!
Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
The point you are missing is that these guys all caught lightning in a bottle with one or two special players and they couldn?t maintain the success. Some got fired others moved on and can?t repeat that success. They all sucked millions from the respective programs. A perverted and upside down system.
They set the lightning rod in place though. They got the pieces to win big.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!
Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.
Do Chizik now. Just to complete it.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!
Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.
Sorta like Leach being a good coach and Will being a good QB?
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Originally Posted by
LC Dawg
Do Chizik now. Just to complete it.
He got cam. He absolutely won it. College is all about who you put on your team. If Bill Belichick came to college and couldn't recruit, he wouldn't win crap at a national level.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Sorta like Leach being a good coach and Will being a good QB?
And I realized I was wrong, and I gave credit where it was deserved. To just hold your nuts on someone is dumb just bc you don't like em or wanna be wrong
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!
Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.
Relax. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is. O is not an elite coach. LSU is a gold mine of a job. So I give O credit for being competent enough to recruit and hire assistants.
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Originally Posted by
BayouDawg
Relax. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is. O is not an elite coach. LSU is a gold mine of a job. So I give O credit for being competent enough to recruit and hire assistants.
He's not an elite coach. I never said that. To give him no credit for getting a natty is ridiculous though
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
And I realized I was wrong, and I gave credit where it was deserved. To just hold your nuts on someone is dumb just bc you don't like em or wanna be wrong
I agree and you did. I kinda agree with you on O too. He won a Natty 2 years ago, I wouldn't be firing him this soon myself. Kinda dumb if you ask me. See if he can find right combo of coordinators again.
Pittman is working good but if he loses Briles & Odom he'll be in same boat.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
He's not an elite coach. I never said that. To give him no credit for getting a natty is ridiculous though
Sure he gets some credit but my point was that the LSU job is a place where lesser coaches can win it all.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
He's not an elite coach. I never said that. To give him no credit for getting a natty is ridiculous though
The OP said Jimbo is not an elite coach. I don't think anyone said these coaches don't get credit for winning a natty but just were making the point that doesn't make them elite.
I think Jimbo is head and shoulders above O and Chizik but I still think there's an argument for him not being elite.
I also think there's an argument for only Saban being elite so that kinda limits the field.
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I really hope LSU hires Jimbo, lol. We'll probably go .500 against him there.
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