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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
The games I've been to this year. Fans have been respectful of the bell rule. However last night it was obvious many people were ringing bells well past the center over the ball.
Yes, and that's typical in the OM game, but the rest of the games the rule followed reasonably closely. The rule is sort of overlooked by fans in that game. I believe Kiffin says he found them irritating - well, they're supposed to be irritating. I'm not a huge fan of cowbells, but since we're allowed to use them, might as well make them useful.
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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
The games I've been to this year. Fans have been respectful of the bell rule. However last night it was obvious many people were ringing bells well past the center over the ball.
This is true.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Actually it is illegal to fake injury but it's not enforced because how do you prove it. However they need to do like the nfl. At least in last 2 minutes of a half if there's an injury you have to use a timeout.
I agree, but when a rule is essentially unenforceable, it?s legal. There needs to be something to deter it.
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Originally Posted by
Dak Holliday
I agree, but when a rule is essentially unenforceable, it?s legal. There needs to be something to deter it.
Amen to that. It need to at very least cost a timeout or if you're out of timeouts a 5 yard penalty. The official rule is unsportsmanlike conduct and 15 yards but like I said ain't nobody enforcing it so it's useless. I've seen it enforce maybe 1 or 2 times and that was in the big 10.
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I think Leach would consider it chicken $hit and never tell a player to fake an injury. Joey Freshwater is a bit**
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Amen to that. It need to at very least cost a timeout or if you're out of timeouts a 5 yard penalty. The official rule is unsportsmanlike conduct and 15 yards but like I said ain't nobody enforcing it so it's useless. I've seen it enforce maybe 1 or 2 times and that was in the big 10.
Since you can?t prove it, I?d say the biggest deterrent would be that the player is required to leave the playing field for 3 plays.
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Originally Posted by
Dak Holliday
Since you can?t prove it, I?d say the biggest deterrent would be that the player is required to leave the playing field for 3 plays.
I'd bump it up to the whole series. I mean seeing as how we're all concerned about player safety in college and the nfl(sarcasm).
I like you're idea.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Actually it is illegal to fake injury but it's not enforced because how do you prove it. However they need to do like the nfl. At least in last 2 minutes of a half if there's an injury you have to use a timeout.
It is a dead ball unsportsmanlike, auto first down or half the distance depending on field position. But if it?s chronic like it is at shithead U then it?s plainly a time for the conference to grow a pair. If you call bullshit, the officials know what?s going on, and flag that ass it will come to an end. But this is going to take the administrations to speak up to the conference office and the word to come down from there for that to happen.
Edit to add it would have real teeth if the foul not only carried a 15 yard mark off and first down but also the offending player was ejected. That would bring it to a halt.
Last edited by Coursesuper; 11-26-2021 at 03:01 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
It is a dead ball unsportsmanlike, auto first down or half the distance depending on field position. But if it?s chronic like it is at shithead U then it?s plainly a time for the conference to grow a pair. If you call bullshit, the officials know what?s going on, and flag that ass it will come to an end. But this is going to take the administrations to speak up to the conference office and the word to come down from there for that to happen.
Yep.
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Originally Posted by
Ranchdawg
Also Lane is not the only coach on that team that lacks class! Their defensive coordinator was smiling on the sideline on both of the targeting calls last night. Smiling as if he was proud that his players were attempting to hurt our players. And don?t give me that crud it?s just a football play and no harm intent was implied.
Same coach got fired for running a kid to death at Maryland
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Originally Posted by
defiantdog
Same coach got fired for running a kid to death at Maryland
That?s the one.
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This is a great example of when a teacher has to implement a rule that makes the whole classroom suffer when it's just one spoiled brat that never had a spanking to teach them at home.
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Originally Posted by
Msujd164
Regarding State fans on cowbells.
But his injury antics are all ok. There?s a reason Greg McElroy said ?This is a total lack of sportsmanship? regarding the phantom injuries.
Just got in from the Thanksgiving trip, but watched the game last night. The head coach should be fined heavily - maybe $100K - for every momentum-killing fake injury. That's of any school, not just Ole Miss. Lane was actually chuckling at the last one that was meaningless. It's totally unethical, not just a lack of sportsmanship.
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Originally Posted by
RocketDawg
Just got in from the Thanksgiving trip, but watched the game last night. The head coach should be fined heavily - maybe $100K - for every momentum-killing fake injury. That's of any school, not just Ole Miss. Lane was actually chuckling at the last one that was meaningless. It's totally unethical, not just a lack of sportsmanship.
How do you prove it?
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Originally Posted by
Dak Holliday
How do you prove it?
When it's convenient for the offending team, and pretty obvious - make them prove it's a real injury. Then remove the fine if it can be proven.
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Originally Posted by
Dak Holliday
How do you prove it?
Where in a call that?s not reviewable is there a burden of prof? Is a football game not a court of law. The officiating crews know exactly what going on they just don?t have yet balls to make yet call.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Where in a call that?s not reviewable is there a burden of prof? Is a football game not a court of law. The officiating crews know exactly what going on they just don?t have yet balls to make yet call.
You're right official's absolutely know what's going on. Heck everyone knows it. Kiffin over there on the sideline laughing about it. Maybe the conference will do something about it but I doubt it. I can see it becoming rampant throughout the conference now that one team is blatantly abusing it.
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Originally Posted by
Dak Holliday
How do you prove it?
If a player is in his stance then falls to the turf that should be an unsportsmanlike penalty plus a charged timeout. Nothing has to be proven. If it happens you get penalized.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
If a player is in his stance then falls to the turf that should be an unsportsmanlike penalty plus a charged timeout. Nothing has to be proven. If it happens you get penalized.
If one is to levy fines and penalties, one must be able to prove. Leveraging penalties anytime a player falls to the turf is not acceptable in a physical game. Cramps do happen. I see this tactic all the time in soccer, too. It sucks, but you can?t prove that a player is or isn?t cramping. Therefore, it is unenforceable, and actions must be taken to deter the behavior.
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If they do that to bama I betcha the rule gets enforced
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