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    Thoughts on game tonight..........

    Moore and Iverson together are great.

    1st impression of Watts is that he played out of control tonight.

    we need to improve blocking out.

    look decent overall Hail State

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    Agree. This team has great potential. But the blocking out or lack thereof has to get fixed.

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    It's going to be tough to take Shakeel out of the lineup. I thought when Watts returned he would take over the starting spot, but Moore can score at every level and defend. I like Moore and Molinar together. I wanted to see more scoring in the post from Garrison this game but he still played pretty solid, same with Jeffries. We have the potential to be good but we aren't there just yet.

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    Too many offensive rebounds for Detroit Mercy (12 of their 27 rebounds were offensive). Tolu coming back will help that.

    We didn't take enough shots. Only 49 shots in a 40 minute game. Now we made almost 60% from the floor, so if your efficiency is high you can live with lower attempts, but not that few.

    Howland has work to do to determine who can work with who. We've got a lot of talent, but tonight it was obvious that we are still working through what our rotations will look like and who's going to get the most minutes.

    Sloppy game, weird tempo, and we win by 13. Davis was voted 1st team all conference. He's pretty good.

    Still think we are a Top 25 team with the talent this roster has. Question is how quickly can it come together and gel.

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    So sloppy game; shoulda won by 20 plus?

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    Detroit may have been 0-2 coming in but they have some players. I think right now the main thing is team chemistry we could be very good if the rotation is right.

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    hopefully everyone can stay unselfish b/c there is only one ball. We are going to have to cut our rotation by SEC play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Too many offensive rebounds for Detroit Mercy (12 of their 27 rebounds were offensive). Tolu coming back will help that.

    We didn't take enough shots. Only 49 shots in a 40 minute game. Now we made almost 60% from the floor, so if your efficiency is high you can live with lower attempts, but not that few.

    Howland has work to do to determine who can work with who. We've got a lot of talent, but tonight it was obvious that we are still working through what our rotations will look like and who's going to get the most minutes.

    Sloppy game, weird tempo, and we win by 13. Davis was voted 1st team all conference. He's pretty good.

    Still think we are a Top 25 team with the talent this roster has. Question is how quickly can it come together and gel.
    Don't know if you listened to the post game show, but the first thing Howland cited was that they got too many offensive rebounds that led to a lot of second chance scores.

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    Hopefully Davis doesn't ever see the floor again in meaningful minutes. He is a complete liability with his awful free throw shooting.

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    We were +14 in rebound margin going into the game? I was there tonight and the ball just bounced in some weird ways. Long rebounds on some hero threes and just some unfortunate bounces all around. Defense was good but there?s nothing you can do about a cross over, hand in your face, fade away bad shot three ball falling multiple times in a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    hopefully everyone can stay unselfish b/c there is only one ball. We are going to have to cut our rotation by SEC play.
    The 8 man rotation by SEC play will be

    1&2 - Iverson Rocket & Shakeel

    3 - DJ & Matthews

    4&5 - Tolu Garrison & Fountain

    Carter & JD or Murphy getting 5-8min when necessary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    The 8 man rotation by SEC play will be

    1&2 - Iverson Rocket & Shakeel

    3 - DJ & Matthews

    4&5 - Tolu Garrison & Fountain

    Carter & JD or Murphy getting 5-8min when necessary
    agree, except hopefully Matthews will still play some 4.

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    It was a game of weird lucky bounces and a couple of prayers for Detroit Mercy that had no business going in. There were several times when we had a ten point lead and the ball threatening to break it open and suddenly there was a turnover and a Detroit 3. Fortunately, we always found an answer, Still, we did not get the comfortable lead until the last few minutes. We do have to do a better job of getting Garrison the ball in a good position. For some reason, we could get the ball to Davis inside (who would get fouled and miss the FT), but that never worked with Brooks.

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    I'm not a super knowledgeable basketball guy from an X & O standpoint, but it seemed to me like other than them just hitting a lot of tough shots, our biggest weakness last night was getting beaten off the dribble one on one and not having help rotate over in time, leading to some fairly easy layups at times. Not sure how you fix that, unless we just knew we had them from a talent standpoint so were playing a very basic man to man with little help? Maybe we play more help D when we play better teams? Or is that something to keep an eye on? Or just tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and I'll shut up

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    You can't take away much from these games this early with a lot of new pieces. We got players and they are going to get better as the season goes along. These games kind of weed out who's ready to take on the big roles.

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    I watched the replay on the ESPN app late last night and we actually played pretty good. We shot 59% from the field and 50% from 3, we out rebounded them (even though it was only by 1) and we played good defense. Detroit was just making alot of tough shots, and thats why we didn't really separate from them like we should have. Plus our former player Prince Oduro probably had the best game of his career for Detroit, he went 7-7 scoring 14 points and also had 7 rebs. But you know you always play harder against a former team. They surely didn't look like an 0-2 team but they showed up to play us, its like that sometimes, especially in college basketball but in the end we won the game and it was never really in jeopardy.

    I will say from a talent and depth standpoint, we may have the best team on paper since Howland has been with us.

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    I thought we would dominate them but we didn't. It was a good win but somehow, from excitement on this board, I expected more from the team. I thought we would look cleaner, more aggressive and more dominant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    I thought we would dominate them but we didn't. It was a good win but somehow, from excitement on this board, I expected more from the team. I thought we would look cleaner, more aggressive and more dominant.
    Well we did look that way last game against Montana. Every game is different and College basketball is unique because upsets happen every week.. thats why the NCAA tournament is so special. We didn't play bad but we obviously still have to clean some things up

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN View Post
    I will say from a talent and depth standpoint, we may have the best team on paper since Howland has been with us.
    Absolutely no doubt that this is his deepest and most talented team by far. More importantly though, our best players fit what Howland wants from their position. A big problem with the '18-'19 and '19-'20 teams in my observation was that Perry and Woodard never seemed completely comfortable with the way they were being asked to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    I thought we would dominate them but we didn't. It was a good win but somehow, from excitement on this board, I expected more from the team. I thought we would look cleaner, more aggressive and more dominant.
    Maybe we didn't dominate, but we covered the spread

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