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    Quote Originally Posted by FriarsPoint View Post
    One thing I?ve learned in my time following MSU football is things never change until you hit absolute rock bottom. Charlie Shira, Emory Bellard, Rockey Felker, Sylvester Croom. I?m pretty confident I?ll be adding another name to that list. Hopefully two.

    I have not thought of Coach Shira in years. That was during my college days ..... He was there 1967 to 1972 & his record was 16W/45L/2T. Poor D. D. Lewis, 67 was his senior year I believe, but he made up for it later with the 2 Super Bowl rings at Dallas.
    Pretty much everybody back then adopted the attitude, he who expects nothing is never disappointed. On the rare occasion we actually won, we were shocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I think it's funny that you talk up Dave Clawson so much when his offense finished last and next to last his first two years at Wake Forest averaging a Croom-ish 14 PPG and then 15 PPG and yet you talk down Mike Leach at MSU. This was 2014-15 for anyone that wants to look it up. Which basically is an example that proves Wyatt's point.
    Not all first 2 years are equal. It's very likely that leach has more talent his 1st 2 years than he'll ever have. I do think the offense will improve as he gets his players, but the defense will fall... you have to have talent on that side, and we aren't getting many stars

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Not all first 2 years are equal. It's very likely that leach has more talent his 1st 2 years than he'll ever have. I do think the offense will improve as he gets his players, but the defense will fall... you have to have talent on that side, and we aren't getting many stars
    I think we will recruit fine on defense. Especially since we have JUCO as a fallback plan which has worked for us multiple times especially on that side of the ball.

    I also think we close strong this year as we usually do if things go as rumored.

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    Mississippi State doesn’t need to change football coaches they need to change their recruiting. Until that happens our results on the field will remain the same.

    Unfortunately, FOOTBALL recruiting is not the priority for this AD and his administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I think we will recruit fine on defense. Especially since we have JUCO as a fallback plan which has worked for us multiple times especially on that side of the ball.

    I also think we close strong this year as we usually do if things go as rumored.
    What’s rumored?

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