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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    You have no idea what the 17 you talkin' bout child.
    perhaps it is you that is missing the clue

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmuti View Post
    dang, if i was bryan glazer i would indeed have some things to answer for
    You might be on the "right" side of the argument and have good opinions on how to treat people, but man.... you suck at articulating them. You're absolutely horrid at debate. Letting people suck you in to strawman fallacies, flinging ad hominem bs, and being borderline incoherent.

    Gruden sucks for his emails and what opinions he apparently held. You suck as a person because you literally don't know how to communicate with someone who thinks differently than you. Is this your first time stepping out of an echo chamber? You make me embarrassed to agree with your general thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Rock View Post
    Open borders? We need workers, guess what open borders bring? Workers, WOW! What a concept.
    Wow, you need a refund from your Economics educator. Damn.

    Or maybe you are still in middle school or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    You might be on the "right" side of the argument and have good opinions on how to treat people, but man.... you suck at articulating them. You're absolutely horrid at debate. Letting people suck you in to strawman fallacies, flinging ad hominem bs, and being borderline incoherent.

    Gruden sucks for his emails and what opinions he apparently held. You suck as a person because you literally don't know how to communicate with someone who thinks differently than you. Is this your first time stepping out of an echo chamber? You make me embarrassed to agree with your general thoughts.
    have a coke and a smile

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmuti View Post
    have a coke and a smile
    Dan the man help me out here. Can you answer me this. Why are you so hell bent on socialism and communism in America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    Dan the man help me out here. Can you answer me this. Why are you so hell bent on socialism and communism in America?
    not sure why you're going offtopic. recognizing that sending out racist and homophobic emails at work is a termination offense is not exactly the stuff of a revolutionary vanguard of the proletariat.

    there's pretty much no period in american history where shouting slurs at work has been looked favorably upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmuti View Post
    not sure why you're going offtopic. recognizing that sending out racist and homophobic emails at work is a termination offense is not exactly the stuff of a revolutionary vanguard of the proletariat.

    there's pretty much no period in american history where shouting slurs at work has been looked favorably upon.
    In this post you aren't 100% wrong. But, there is a statute of limitations. How far back should people be able to go to dig something up on you? Ten years has passed, I mean really if he hasn't done or said this stuff in ten years, can we not assume that this was a " one off" innocent until proven guilty is still a thing. It is bad in society when you do something wrong and you are canceled for it. Give that person a chance to repent for it and show that they have gotten better. Especially since this was ten years ago.

    How many players have raped someone, committed a felony, done way worse than what Gruden said and then they are let off with a slap on the wrist? We have got to stop canceling people, especially for stuff that happens ten years ago. If they have proof that is still says these things, then okay you are within your statute of time. But, not ten years ago.

    Edit: Giving people the chance to show that they have changed improves society. It shows that we can forgive, forget, and move on. If we cannot be a forgiving society than we are quickly degrading from America's founding principles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    In this post you aren't 100% wrong. But, there is a statute of limitations. How far back should people be able to go to dig something up on you? Ten years has passed, I mean really if he hasn't done or said this stuff in ten years, can we not assume that this was a " one off" innocent until proven guilty is still a thing. It is bad in society when you do something wrong and you are canceled for it. Give that person a chance to repent for it and show that they have gotten better. Especially since this was ten years ago.

    How many players have raped someone, committed a felony, done way worse than what Gruden said and then they are let off with a slap on the wrist? We have got to stop canceling people, especially for stuff that happens ten years ago. If they have proof that is still says these things, then okay you are within your statute of time. But, not ten years ago.

    Edit: Giving people the chance to show that they have changed improves society. It shows that we can forgive, forget, and move on. If we cannot be a forgiving society than we are quickly degrading from America's founding principles.
    "statute of limitations" is a legal thing. as far as im aware gruden has not been arrested for his slur emails. that would be a 1st amendment violation

    at-will employment is a conservative idea. sounds like you are trying to have the government tell this private employer who they have to hire and fire. Why are you so hell bent on socialism and communism in America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmuti View Post
    "statute of limitations" is a legal thing. as far as im aware gruden has not been arrested for his slur emails. that would be a 1st amendment violation

    at-will employment is a conservative idea. sounds like you are trying to have the government tell this private employer who they have to hire and fire. Why are you so hell bent on socialism and communism in America?
    Your are not comprehending what I am saying. I do not want the government telling anyone what to do outside of the laws that we have already set up via our constitution.

    I am saying that we as a society are so quick to just rid ourselves of something or someone for fear that we might get roped into their issues, when non of that has to be the case. It would have been really neat for the Raiders as an organization and Gruden himself to have come out and apologized, talked about what they are doing to change and learn how this type of language is not acceptable even in a private conversation. That would have been much better for them and society as a whole than what actually took place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    Your are not comprehending what I am saying. I do not want the government telling anyone what to do outside of the laws that we have already set up via our constitution.

    I am saying that we as a society are so quick to just rid ourselves of something or someone for fear that we might get roped into their issues, when non of that has to be the case. It would have been really neat for the Raiders as an organization and Gruden himself to have come out and apologized, talked about what they are doing to change and learn how this type of language is not acceptable even in a private conversation. That would have been much better for them and society as a whole than what actually took place.
    actually he simply should have kept his professional communications professional. i know its hard to understand that one's actions can have consequences, but thems the breaks. there's a reason that the higher you go in most orgs, the fewer emails and such are written. it's hard to be crucified for writing slur-filled emails if they never exist in the first place

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmuti View Post
    "statute of limitations" is a legal thing. as far as im aware gruden has not been arrested for his slur emails. that would be a 1st amendment violation

    at-will employment is a conservative idea. sounds like you are trying to have the government tell this private employer who they have to hire and fire. Why are you so hell bent on socialism and communism in America?
    At will employment is a not a conservative idea. It's just a description of a contractual relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmuti View Post
    actually he simply should have kept his professional communications professional. i know its hard to understand that one's actions can have consequences, but thems the breaks. there's a reason that the higher you go in most orgs, the fewer emails and such are written. it's hard to be crucified for writing slur-filled emails if they never exist in the first place
    That's what I am saying, lol. Also, are you saying that instead of writing these things he should have just said them? Then its a he said she said moment? Because that hasn't burned anyone lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    At will employment is a not a conservative idea. It's just a description of a contractual relationship.
    thats a lie lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    That's what I am saying, lol. Also, are you saying that instead of writing these things he should have just said them? Then its a he said she said moment? Because that hasn't burned anyone lately.
    i said no such thing. take your strawman elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmuti View Post
    i said no such thing. take your strawman elsewhere
    How is that not what you said? If I miss understood you, please help me understand what you wrote!

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    this thread has been an incredible inspiration: https://imgur.com/a/mwuRp4V

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    Just FYI Dalmuti is a troll. This his third user name this year. He was dantheman for a while and was banned. Just pointing that out he loves to argue lie about his escapades and push his agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmuti View Post
    thats a lie lol
    Are you trolling here? Or are you really ignorant enough that you don't know what at will employment is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    Just FYI Dalmuti is a troll. This his third user name this year. He was dantheman for a while and was banned. Just pointing that out he loves to argue lie about his escapades and push his agenda.
    No way he's A Dog then. JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    The Left has good ideas but worse leadership than SlowMo JoMo and it makes them suck.
    The only people I know that think the left has good ideas are snowflakes that are offended by everyone that doesn't think just like them and want's them all canceled and people that want free lunches. I literally can't remember the last adult that I've spoken to that believed the left's economic, foreign relations, etc. ideas were good.

    Well, I guess there are those that agree with the left on the abortion issue but that's a whole new discussion.

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