Why Is Our Defense Getting A Pass?

[OLJWales]

Going into last week the defense was meeting your expectations. They had a bad game. So through 4 games has the offense met your expectations? Consider the 4 opponents this year when comparing #'s to last year.

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[Matt3467]

The time of possession in our games have been pretty lopsided in our favor so it's not like our D should be tired.

[confucius say]

A lot of that is because before Saturday we had a top 25-30 defense (26th). That's where most predicted we'd be. We had a bad game now we're 43rd. I suspect we have a good game Saturday & jump back up to around 30 or so. So for the most part the defense has been what we thought it would be. Good to very good but not great or elite because we don't have elite defensive talent.

One other thing that I didn't realize, as you say our defense is 43. But our offense is 48. Not much difference yet the O gets 10 times the criticism as the D, despite the fact that IMO our D is supposed to be the better unit going into the year while the offense was still coming along.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

One other thing that I didn't realize, as you say our defense is 43. But our offense is 48. Not much difference yet the O gets 10 times the criticism as the D, despite the fact that IMO our D is supposed to be the better unit going into the year while the offense was still coming along.

I think the biggest problem that fans have with our offense is we've moved the ball but hasn't scored like that. We've played 3 non conference games & a mediocre LSU team & we have scored like we should've. I think that's where the frustration for the offense comes in. Especially when we have an offensive genius as coach.

[confucius say]

I think the biggest problem that fans have with our offense is we've moved the ball but hasn't scored like that. We've played 3 non conference games & a mediocre LSU team & we have scored like we should've. I think that's where the frustration for the offense comes in. Especially when we have an offensive genius as coach.

I agree. If we were just quit having empty possessions inside the opponents 25 that's work wonders.

[BrunswickDawg]

I agree. If we were just quit having empty possessions inside the opponents 25 that's work wonders.

But even that is not entirely accurate. We have had 16 possessions inside the 20 and converted on 14 of them. That's good for 8th in the SEC and only 4 behind 2nd place.
Where we really stall out is between the MSU 40 and the opponents 30 - so we are out of FG range and unable to advance.

[confucius say]

Yea the two empty possessions inside the LSU 25 (pick and missed fg) and the empty possession on first and goal at the Memphis 2 really stick out. Other than that, we've been ok.

[sleepy dawg]

Just to be clear, we are 12th in scoring defense, and 7th in ypg on defense. While the bottom half part was technically correct, the dead last part was not.

[confucius say]

Just to be clear, we are 12th in scoring defense, and 7th in ypg on defense. While the bottom half part was technically correct, the dead last part was not.

Right. I said dead last in pass defense.

But I'm showing us 8th in ypg, not 7th.

[Commercecomet24]

Also I believe they are showing our defense giving up 25.8 a game when in fact we have given up 21 non-defensive points(14 on pick 6 and fumble and 7 on special teams) so our defense is actually only giving up 20.5 points a game which isn't bad at all.

[confucius say]

Also I believe they are showing our defense giving up 25.8 a game when in fact we have given up 21 non-defensive points(14 on pick 6 and fumble and 7 on special teams) so our defense is actually only giving up 20.5 points a game which isn't bad at all.

That 20.5 would move us from 12th to 9th in scoring defense.

But you would also have to take off everybody else's points allowed on offense or special teams, and I'm not sure how many that would be.

[Commercecomet24]

That 20.5 would move us from 12th to 9th in scoring defense.

But you would also have to take off everybody else's points allowed on offense or special teams, and I'm not sure how many that would be.

True, I just really wish they would adjust that to make it truly reflect defensive scoring. This method only shows how many points the team gives up in total.

[Commercecomet24]

True, I just really wish they would adjust that to make it truly reflect defensive scoring. This method only shows how many points the team gives up in total.

ETA It's kinda like how they place sacks as yardage lost in rushing instead of like the NFL which places yardage lost on sacks in the passing yardage category where it should actually be.

[confucius say]

Agreed. That's why I can buy the argument that ypg is a better stat to measure a defense.

If our D can just stop giving up huge explosives for TD twice a game they'd be really good.

[Commercecomet24]

Agreed. That's why I can buy the argument that ypg is a better stat to measure a defense.

If our D can just stop giving up huge explosives for TD twice a game they'd be really good.

Agree on that!

[maroonmania]

The offense is averaging 28.3 a game. I would have expected 31-34 at this point given the teams we've played. I give it a C at this point.

The defense is giving 25.8, 22.3 if you take away the 14 points the offense has given up. I would have expected under 20 at this point given the offenses we played (none of which have been good except Memphis) and the fact that our offense has dominated time of possession. I give it a B- at this point.

Yea, I feel like our O and our D are sort of polar opposites. We think our O has major issues because even though we eat up a lot of yardage we are not putting up that many points. Our D overall doesn't give up all that many yards but gives up a pretty large number of points because we give up big plays that go straight for TDs. To demonstrate this I looked up on teamrankings.com our statistics and so far our total offense average is 41st in the country but our scoring offense is only 59th. An even worse disparity though is that our total defense is 33rd in the country but our scoring defense is 65th (almost double).

So, in my view, even though our defense LOOKS better than our offense they have actually been no more effective than our offense where it counts which is on the scoreboard. Yes, I know some of the points we've given up have been directly off either the offense or special teams and that has been a factor that makes our points allowed a good bit worse. But still, while I know we don't even try to play bend but don't break defense, regardless we are breaking WAY too much and we have no defensive scores. Someone said that our defense had only played the one bad game against LA Tech. Well, I don't know how you can give up 3 TD passes of over 40 yards in a game to LSU and say your defense played well? And on top of that we gave up ANOTHER TD pass in the game where we had them pinned back at 3rd and goal from the 12. That is just not getting it done. Bottom line goal of a defense is to prevent scoring which we aren't doing very well.

[OLJWales]

Synopsis needed.

[Jacknut]

We have given up 13 TD.

2 have come from inside our red zone. NC state scored from the 4 and LSI from the 11.

The other 11 have been from turnovers or explosive plays. We've given up TDs of 72, 59, 24, 21, 25, 64, 58, and 41 yards. And then the punt return, pick 6, and fumble scoop and score.

The explosives for TDs are killing us.

Thank you! Ain't just offense losing all these games.

[sleepy dawg]

Right. I said dead last in pass defense.

But I'm showing us 8th in ypg, not 7th.

12th isn't last. There are 14 teams in the SEC. We're ahead of Missouri and Vandy.

[Coach34]

12th isn't last. There are 14 teams in the SEC. We're ahead of Missouri and Vandy.

We are 14th in Pass D- dead last

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