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    Quote Originally Posted by memsu06 View Post
    Texas A&M and Auburn are vulnerable. I think we can beat them if we play a clean game with no stupid mistakes that have been killing us. .
    "Goshdarn it guys. If we play absolutely perfect we can win!!!!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    "Goshdarn it guys. If we play absolutely perfect we can win!!!!!!"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2lgOO2fapA

    Sometimes you have to look at things more closely. Consider looking at this YouTube file at time lines 0.05 and 0.06 on the seek bar of this video. MSU receiver Heath is 6ft3in 220lbs. He gets a good pass thrown to him and he places the football on his outside hand. Heath sees the defender size him up and he for some odd reason changes the ball to his inside hand in just a perfect spot for the defender to place his helmet on it? The big receivers body language shows fear before the contact and he does not cover up the ball with the free hand. The big receiver protects his legs instead of the ball. While protecting his legs, his possession hand widens away from his high and tight rib area. The game turned on that play because the receiver was fearful. This is not playing quality ball and the quarterback was not at fault. Throwing to fearful receivers will have an effect on the quarterbacks mindset also? Use some slow motion while watching two seconds of video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    "Goshdarn it guys. If we play absolutely perfect we can win!!!!!!"
    No, we don't have to play absolutely perfect to win BUT right now we are sloppy, sloppy, undisciplined football team that has no attention to detail. That is not a scheme issue but I guess it could have some to do with youth if you consider us young or at least inexperienced. And is certainly a coaching issue.

    But how about we stop giving our opponent a 7 point head start every week by not only fumbling away the ball on our opening possession every week but doing it over near the sideline where there is nobody to tackle anyone if the defense gets it. How about let's stop being routinely negative in the turnover column in general. Not only is our offense giving away the ball quite a bit but our defense isn't getting a lot back. Forbes INT yesterday was nice but it was so far down the field it equated to a punt. How about our punt team put in a little more attention to detail by controlling the ball when you down it or not committing a personal foul when rushing the punter costing us possessions and points. How about the defense not let a guy get behind them 30 yards and making us look silly for a TD. How about not sending the house on every 3rd down and continuing to give up these huge chunk plays or TDs. Yesterday we gave up 3 TDs on touchdown passes of over 40 yards. How about not missing chip shot FGs. How about when we execute an onside kick we not have a guy run across and illegally bulldoze an opposing player paying no attention to the ball. How about cutting out having twice the penalty yardage of our opponent with routine holding calls and personal fouls (although the holding calls were not an issue yesterday). We could easily be 4-0 right now if we had just played smart, disciplined football and not doing stupid things but I guess maybe that is too much to ask. We are not a top level team by any means nor do we have the talent to be but we've lost the last 2 weeks to teams that are not really that good and that we had every opportunity to beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    No, we don't have to play absolutely perfect to win BUT right now we are sloppy, sloppy, undisciplined football team that has no attention to detail. That is not a scheme issue but I guess it could have some to do with youth if you consider us young or at least inexperienced. And is certainly a coaching issue.

    But how about we stop giving our opponent a 7 point head start every week by not only fumbling away the ball on our opening possession every week but doing it over near the sideline where there is nobody to tackle anyone if the defense gets it. How about let's stop being routinely negative in the turnover column in general. Not only is our offense giving away the ball quite a bit but our defense isn't getting a lot back. Forbes INT yesterday was nice but it was so far down the field it equated to a punt. How about our punt team put in a little more attention to detail by controlling the ball when you down it or not committing a personal foul when rushing the punter costing us possessions and points. How about the defense not let a guy get behind them 30 yards and making us look silly for a TD. How about not sending the house on every 3rd down and continuing to give up these huge chunk plays or TDs. Yesterday we gave up 3 TDs on touchdown passes of over 40 yards. How about not missing chip shot FGs. How about when we execute an onside kick we not have a guy run across and illegally bulldoze an opposing player paying no attention to the ball. How about cutting out having twice the penalty yardage of our opponent with routine holding calls and personal fouls (although the holding calls were not an issue yesterday). We could easily be 4-0 right now if we had just played smart, disciplined football and not doing stupid things but I guess maybe that is too much to ask. We are not a top level team by any means nor do we have the talent to be but we've lost the last 2 weeks to teams that are not really that good and that we had every opportunity to beat.
    What you describe is very poorly coached team, especially when nothing seems to get better and we keep making the same mistakes week after week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstickdawg View Post
    What you describe is very poorly coached team, especially when nothing seems to get better and we keep making the same mistakes week after week.
    The O Line was way better yesterday than the first three weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    The O Line was way better yesterday than the first three weeks.
    That was probably the brightest spot on offense, but having WR's run freely in the secondary is simply terrible play as was the jumping into the punt block. eitehr we have some poor coaching or some folks that don't pay attention, idk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstickdawg View Post
    What you describe is very poorly coached team, especially when nothing seems to get better and we keep making the same mistakes week after week.
    This is simply not true… you can see week after week things are getting better. First week: we cannot block a sole on offensive line second week: not really an issue. Once that was fixed the glaring issue was the Pre snaps penalties. That seems to have been fixed (we will see this week if it’s consistent). All we as fans can do is ask for the obvious to be fixed the next week. It is happening, a lot of our errors are effort or lack of focus errors. I will not put this at the feet of Leach because he has always had really focused teams. You have to look at this being attributed to youthful mistakes.

    The moment I don’t see this team caring that is the moment that we need to change. But they constantly are fighting and keeping us in the game until the end even though they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

    Which I cannot say for a lot of Mullen coached games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    No, we don't have to play absolutely perfect to win BUT right now we are sloppy, sloppy, undisciplined football team that has no attention to detail. That is not a scheme issue but I guess it could have some to do with youth if you consider us young or at least inexperienced. And is certainly a coaching issue.

    But how about we stop giving our opponent a 7 point head start every week by not only fumbling away the ball on our opening possession every week but doing it over near the sideline where there is nobody to tackle anyone if the defense gets it. How about let's stop being routinely negative in the turnover column in general. Not only is our offense giving away the ball quite a bit but our defense isn't getting a lot back. Forbes INT yesterday was nice but it was so far down the field it equated to a punt. How about our punt team put in a little more attention to detail by controlling the ball when you down it or not committing a personal foul when rushing the punter costing us possessions and points. How about the defense not let a guy get behind them 30 yards and making us look silly for a TD. How about not sending the house on every 3rd down and continuing to give up these huge chunk plays or TDs. Yesterday we gave up 3 TDs on touchdown passes of over 40 yards. How about not missing chip shot FGs. How about when we execute an onside kick we not have a guy run across and illegally bulldoze an opposing player paying no attention to the ball. How about cutting out having twice the penalty yardage of our opponent with routine holding calls and personal fouls (although the holding calls were not an issue yesterday). We could easily be 4-0 right now if we had just played smart, disciplined football and not doing stupid things but I guess maybe that is too much to ask. We are not a top level team by any means nor do we have the talent to be but we've lost the last 2 weeks to teams that are not really that good and that we had every opportunity to beat.

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! All of that can be and on my end will be attributed to a youthful/inexperienced football team.

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