Honest question for Leach supporters

[R2Dawg]

What is he going to do different to make any of the remaining games any better?

I'd love to have some hope because I don't want this humiliation for MSU but based on decades of Leach history, he ain't changin.

Hope you who are ultimate optimist?

[Bothrops]

Look no further than Hal Mumme's little stint at Belhaven. They may have won more games before he got there. Innovative and such.

[VandelayIndustries]

There can’t be many supporters are there?

[Dawgology]

There can’t be many supporters are there?

We still had idiots supporting Croom when he was canned. Never underestimate State fans ability to accept mediocrity

[Dawg_Lover]

How can anyone defend someone today who plainly failed their team yesterday?!
It is very concerning this may become a pattern going forward. I am struggling to maintain hope, and I cannot help but wonder what the players are thinking.

[Santiago]

I still support him. Seeing that we have left at least 21-28 points a game on the field, from mistakes, misfires, etc.
By end of the year if it is still the same then it is time to reconsider.
His teams improve through the season, so I am curious to see if even half of those points start dropping in for us.

[R2Dawg]

I still support him. Seeing that we have left at least 21-28 points a game on the field, from mistakes, misfires, etc.
By end of the year if it is still the same then it is time to reconsider.
His teams improve through the season, so I am curious to see if even half of those points start dropping in for us.

Thanks for your honesty.

So the answer is play a more perfect game?

Anything else?

[Santiago]

Thanks for your honesty.

So the answer is play a more perfect game?

Anything else?

More about, make the 4-5 plays in a game that top teams make. For me so far, we actually can see the plays on the field opening up. I don't remember seeing those big plays develop in the past.
This game now is about making those big plays when they present themselves and usually it is teams with superior talent. I just want to see this system become the equilizer to that issue we will always have against top teams.
Basically - Go make plays. They plays are there. He has freshmen that are his recruits to start filling the gaps

[R2Dawg]

More about, make the 4-5 plays in a game that top teams make. For me so far, we actually can see the plays on the field opening up. I don't remember seeing those big plays develop in the past.
This game now is about making those big plays when they present themselves and usually it is teams with superior talent. I just want to see this system become the equilizer to that issue we will always have against top teams.
Basically - Go make plays. They plays are there. He has freshmen that are his recruits to start filling the gaps

OK, that is basically the dream formula for every team in America. Realistically, what will he do? What is Leach going to do to put players in position to make those 4-5 winning plays but suck the rest?

The reason teams make those 4-5 winning plays is because they have 40-50 possible winning plays a game. We don't. Completing 30 passes a game for 2 yards ain't winning plays.

[Johnson85]

OK, that is basically the dream formula for every team in America. Realistically, what will he do? What is Leach going to do to put players in position to make those 4-5 winning plays but suck the rest?

The reason teams make those 4-5 winning plays is because they have 40-50 possible winning plays a game. We don't. Completing 30 passes a game for 2 yards ain't winning plays.

What do you think he did the previous roughly 12 seasons where he had his teams ready to beat teams like Memphis (well really, even in some of those, he would have an inexplicable loss but make up for it with an upset)?

I don't know why this team can't seem to run his offense. I'm skeptical that we're ever going to beat elite defenses with it, but we sure as shit should be able to run it well enough to beat Memphis. I am still hopeful that we will be similar to Dan every year but 2014. A good enough offense that lets us when games with defense and be 6-6 to 8-4 most years.

[Maverick91]

I still support him. Seeing that we have left at least 21-28 points a game on the field, from mistakes, misfires, etc.
By end of the year if it is still the same then it is time to reconsider.
His teams improve through the season, so I am curious to see if even half of those points start dropping in for us.

I want to buy into what you are drinking, but, my issues now are the fact that we are three games into this season and we CANNOT stop with pre-snap penalties. That is not something that well coached teams do. It has been three straight games of that mess. i want to believe that he can write the ship, but, he has a TON of proving to do. He can do that this weekend at home.

[Percho]

I want to buy into what you are drinking, but, my issues now are the fact that we are three games into this season and we CANNOT stop with pre-snap penalties. That is not something that well coached teams do. It has been three straight games of that mess. i want to believe that he can write the ship, but, he has a TON of proving to do. He can do that this weekend at home.

I honestly believe those penalties are a result of how slow we get plays in motion. The longer it takes to put a play in motion the more anxious the OL gets. IMHO

[preachermatt83]

Simple. Do exactly what he said in his press conference in post game… Convince will to take chances down the field. We have receivers running open down the field. The offensive system is working. We are not hitting the guys down the feild. We are continually checking down. Our last drive shows exactly what our offense is supposed to look like.

[BeardoMSU]

Our last drive shows exactly what our offense is supposed to look like.

Teams don't usually face "prevent-D's" an entire game, lol. There's are reasons those down-field routes have been open late in games when we were down big...

[preachermatt83]

Teams don't usually face "prevent-D's" an entire game, lol. There's are reasons those down-field routes have been open late in games when we were down big...

Buddy, I like ya and don?t mean this too awful but I really just don?t think you put much thought into this post. Prevents are designed to PREVENT down the field throws.

[Quaoarsking]

I've basically idolized the man for 15+ years, so it's going to get really hard for me if this goes South. But we've got to reduce the 1-yard dumpoffs to the RBs and throw downfield more, even if we have a few INTs.

The screwjob from yesterday is such a season-killer, because instead of looking ahead to our matchup with LSU and our chance to get into the top 25, we're wondering whether we're going to make a bowl.

[R2Dawg]

I've basically idolized the man for 15+ years, so it's going to get really hard for me if this goes South. But we've got to reduce the 1-yard dumpoffs to the RBs and throw downfield more, even if we have a few INTs.

The screwjob from yesterday is such a season-killer, because of looking ahead to our matchup with LSU and our chance to get into the top 25, we're wondering whether we're going to make a bowl.

Yeah I get all the theory of folks saying what Will should do, play a perfect game and all.

My question is what is Leach going to do to fix the issue? If the answer is more of the same like we've seen for 1.5 years then expect more of the same - offensive failure.

Preacher, since it is working I guess your answer is he doesn't have to do anything. Just more of the same. OK

[R2Dawg]

I've basically idolized the man for 15+ years, so it's going to get really hard for me if this goes South. But we've got to reduce the 1-yard dumpoffs to the RBs and throw downfield more, even if we have a few INTs.

The screwjob from yesterday is such a season-killer, because of looking ahead to our matchup with LSU and our chance to get into the top 25, we're wondering whether we're going to make a bowl.

We are the same team win or lose yesterday. A team with an anemic O and one dimensional heading into SEC play. 2-1 or 3-0 forecast don't look good. What is Leach gonna do?

I asked the question before season started and we are getting what I and others said we would get. Same, same, same.

[preachermatt83]

I've basically idolized the man for 15+ years, so it's going to get really hard for me if this goes South. But we've got to reduce the 1-yard dumpoffs to the RBs and throw downfield more, even if we have a few INTs.

The screwjob from yesterday is such a season-killer, because instead of looking ahead to our matchup with LSU and our chance to get into the top 25, we're wondering whether we're going to make a bowl.

I agree completely. I wanted him hired when we hired croom

[PMDawg]

I've basically idolized the man for 15+ years

This explains a lot.

You can explain away our loss to a vastly less talented team by calling it a "screw job by the refs", but we never should have been in that position anyway. We refused to put away a bad team, then we did stupid things that shifted momentum away from us and got their "crowd" back into it. The penalties, dumb coaching decisions, refusal to challenge even the most obvious incorrect calls, general laziness of the coaching staff, and other chronic negatives aren't going to just magically disappear. You'll be seeing the same things in late November as you saw Saturday.