Sunday Morning QB- Mugged in Memphis Edition

[dawgday166]

I suggest you listen to Hoops. He knows more than you.

Not hardly but ... whatever. Everything I said about 2014/2016 is true. I'm not saying this will turn around yet but I am saying it is still too early to tell. That's all I'm saying right now. There is a lot that can be improved and I am questioning Leach's enthusiasm some myself.

[KOdawg1]

I was under the impression that Leach didn?t need big time QBs. So I don?t blame Will. It?s the offense.

It's both.

[R2Dawg]

Our team under Mullen immediately became better running the ball. The reason? Better scheme.

We went from embarrassment to really good in the span of one year, from 2008 to 2009.

If you think I?m wrong, go back and watch the 2008 egg bowl and then watch the 2009 egg bowl. Mullen installed a competent offense and took advantage of what we had, he didn?t wait 3-4 years to bring his guys in.

Leach is getting paid to win games now, not run a scheme we aren?t equipped to run.

The people saying scheme works when he gets his people are the same ones that said Croom needed his players to run WCO. Leach needs 5 years to have one year of scheme success. We just gotta wait 3 more years, then find a new excuse like Croom did.

[FISHDAWG]

1. I love college football Saturday's. Football and food. Just a great day of relaxation and cheering for your team and the teams you bet on with some Tito's and a 20 ounce ribeye cooked to a perfect medium pink. And like my boy Jake Wimberly I also use ketchup.

2. Yes we got screwed on the punt return call. So what? There were 110 plats in the game. That 1 play didnt decide it. Why was the team that let Arkansas State score 50 on them that close to begin with?

3. Rogers set some State records yesterday. Most passing attempts. Most completions. Most dump downs to RB's in a game. Slowest run for an attempted 2 point conversion. I could complete 70% of the passes in this offense at age 50 let alone when I was 20

4. Anybody saying that this offensive scheme is not the problem is not a smart person. I'm going to avoid name-calling and not call these people dumbasses. I'm not going to call them football illiterate. I'm not even going to say "shut up stupid". But anybody that thinks an offensive scheme is effective when a defense lines up the same way and plays it the same way over and over and over and over again play after play without changing- is effective? Then those people likely need someone to use a spoon for them and to unbuckle their pants. When Rush 3 and Drop 8 play after mf'ing play is what you know is coming- and you still struggle to score then you aren't an effective playcaller in an effective offense. When a defense plays so vanilla against you play after play and you cant abuse them- then your offense sux.

5. I've seen people post "the offense wasn't the problem. We had 459 yards". First of all we ran 83 plays compared to our normal 65-67. That's like playing an extra quarter for us. So yeah- we had more yards. Secondly- Memphis was giving up an average of 490 yards per game. So the fact that we couldnt even meet their standard of shittiness magnifies the fact that our offense is not good.

6. I hate watching this Wishbone 2020 offense. Snap, drop back, dump down to the RB. Watch RB get blown the **** up by a LB closing downhill at a high rate of speed. Snap, drop back, rush 3 drop 8 yet aGAIN....look around for 5 seconds, hit Williams in the middle of the field for a 6 yard gain. Over and over and over and over. It's like watching a wing-T team almost. It's so painful to watch.

7. You know how to figure out a coach is just collecting a check? Watch his reaction to a blatant missed call by the refs. I went out on the field and picked up the ball before a team could run another play after an inadvertent whistle the refs were just going to try and pretend didnt happen during a game. The very least Leach could have done was raise a little hell and ask for a replay. He has coaches in the press box- shirley somebody saw the ref going to mark the ball and moving his hands over his head. Shirley a player told him they heard a whistle even if he didnt. Wtf? Dont just stand there.

8. The OL is not the problem. When you throw the ball 60 times you are going to have a couple of holding penalties. When you throw the ball 60 times- there is going to be a couple of sacks. Defensive lines in the South just have too many athletes.

9. Defense did their job. Gave up 17 points to a pretty good offense.

10. Not kicking the FG to start the 3rd Q bit us in the ass. Not having a decent 2 point play bit us in the ass. Being soft as an offense bit us in the ass in the red zone. Onside kicking a 2nd time in a row instead of kicking it deep bit us in the ass. Not changing your offense for 25 years bit us in the ass. We scored 29 points on a team that gave up 50 to Arkansas State. Ark State scored 3 points on Washington last night. We scored 34 points on La Tech- since then La Tech has given up 42 points to SE Louisiana and 39 to SMU. We are the worst offense La Tech has faced this year. Scheme isnt the problem tho is it?

This team isnt going bowling in 2021 unless our GPA gets us in again with 5 wins. Provided we somehow get a 5th

Have some rep for nailing it ... I would also like to say that Rogers isn't the qb for this offense and Cohen isn't the AD for us ... everyone can flame away at me if you like but it won't change my mind one bit

[Cowbell]

Maybe so but he also needs the personnel to do that. Right now he doesn't have that and maybe he isn't recruiting it either. I'm not keeping up with recruiting enough to know for sure right now. Historically speaking tho his QBs don't run and I do think that would help if we had a QB that could make teams pay more when 8 are dropped. So you may have a valid point if he doesn't adapt some.

You adapt to what you have. You never here good coaches complain about not having their guys.

[Maroonthirteen]

False.

You're seeing 4 guys running between 8 DBs 20-25 yards away from the QB. those windows close quick.

Leachs offense invites 7-8 dBs dropped back covering 4 WR. His offense rarely does anything to get isolated 1on1 matchups. The few times Rogers did have a 1on1 matchup behind the coverage. Memphis was in man to man and Rogers was 2-3 on those throws.

[KOdawg1]

You're seeing 4 guys running between 8 DBs 20-25 yards away from the QB. those windows close quick.

Leachs offense invites 7-8 dBs dropped back covering 4 WR. His offense rarely does anything to get isolated 1on1 matchups. The few times Rogers did have a 1on1 matchup behind the coverage. Memphis was in man to man and Rogers was 2-3 on those throws.

Nope. I'm seeing Malik Heath waving his arms, jumping up and down as Will tosses it to Dillon Johnson for 2 yards.

[shoeless joe]

Nope. I'm seeing Malik Heath waving his arms, jumping up and down as Will tosses it to Dillon Johnson for 2 yards.

Or walley all alone at the pylon and we throw a 3 yard loss to Calvin.

[Coach34]

Nope. I'm seeing Malik Heath waving his arms, jumping up and down as Will tosses it to Dillon Johnson for 2 yards.

To be fair- Heath has thought he was wide open on every play since the 10th grade

[Bothrops]

I think we'll improve to 5-7 on the season and hopefully turn down a bowl if invited. We'll finish last in the west.

[BeardoMSU]

You adapt to what you have. You never here good coaches complain about not having their guys.

But some how, this is the excuse Mike gets...as if he's special or something. Insanity.

[Cowbell]

But some how, this is the excuse Mike gets...as if he's special or something. Insanity.

Him and joe. And our girls basketball coach

[Lance Harbor]

Was it Prime Rib at the corner or the Marlboro light smoke?

Pirate is Emory II, past his time and hard headed. That second half of sorry ass football was bad. Yes to what you say about punt return, shouldn't have come down to that. What a dumb move not taking points after interception up by 10 with mo on our side. After that it was all down hill!

Btw 34, The Pirate loved the Corner Bar in Natchez. I guess it reminded him of Key West.

[Percho]

You guys realize why they are getting hurt right ?! 34 covered - heck I started a thread about it last season

The very reason I believe it should be a check up offense. LB's bail quickly, hit the rb quickly while the LB's are backing up. They probably could run forever against that. Then when that slowed the LB drop you could do something else.

[Percho]

Of course you don't. To be fair, if I were trying to justify bad qb play, I would avoid those 2 also.

Was the fade that was not caught for a TD a bad QB play? A bad play call by coach Leach?

[SilentSteel16]

To be fair- Heath has thought he was wide open on every play since the 10th grade

Haha. That is great and spot on. Haha

[Percho]

The most disappointing thing about Leach is the sloppiness and a lack of attention to detail. Everything else is what we thought it was.

I hope the kinks get worked out. I hope Rogers figured out how to read the whole field and find the wide ass open receivers. But I?m not a fan of this style of offense?and wasn?t when we hired the man. Nothing has changed my mind.

I agree with this post esp the first line.

[msstate7]

Was the fade that was not caught for a TD a bad QB play? A bad play call by coach Leach?

In the 3rd quarter? That was a bad pass or bad route one bc the wr had to totally turn around with ball in air. It was 50 ft in front of me

[basedog]

Was it Prime Rib at the corner or the Marlboro light smoke?

LOL, he did have a good dinner and turned down a chance to see some beautiful homes and such to get a friendly bar seat at the Corner Bar. I don't hate him for having a good time, it's who he is.

[Maverick91]

Nope. I'm seeing Malik Heath waving his arms, jumping up and down as Will tosses it to Dillon Johnson for 2 yards.

That has to be so frustrating for Heath and the others.