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[CadaverDawg]

We looked better, but the offense is still not good. Doesn't mean I hate Leach, like R2Dawg said, it just means I don't share your opinion. I also don't know where y'all are getting this "6-7 wins is the floor now", stuff....outside of Memphis, Vandy, and Tennessee State, there are no gimmes. And considering how little our offense is putting up points (only 2 scores yesterday), some might not consider Memphis a gimme either.

I would love nothing more than for Leach to win big here....but so far through a season and 2 games, the only true weakness on our team is his unit. So until that unit shows some semblance of life, I can't see us winning under him, and I surely can't put automatic wins on the schedule after squeaking by La Tech after trailing by 20. I hope he turns the offense into a force sooner than later, but for anyone to wonder why some may have doubts, is willfully sticking your head in the sand.

I'll agree to disagree with your opinion, and hope that things turn out the way we both want them to...which is with the offense clicking and creating one hell of a team, bc our defense is already more than pulling their weight.

[Schultzy]

We looked better, but the offense is still not good. Doesn't mean I hate Leach, like R2Dawg said, it just means I don't share your opinion. I also don't know where y'all are getting this "6-7 wins is the floor now", stuff....outside of Memphis, Vandy, and Tennessee State, there are no gimmes. And considering how little our offense is putting up points (only 2 scores yesterday), some might not consider Memphis a gimme either.

I would love nothing more than for Leach to win big here....but so far through a season and 2 games, the only true weakness on our team is his unit. So until that unit shows some semblance of life, I can't see us winning under him, and I surely can't put automatic wins on the schedule after squeaking by La Tech after trailing by 20. I hope he turns the offense into a force sooner than later, but for anyone to wonder why some may have doubts, is willfully sticking your head in the sand.

I'll agree to disagree with your opinion, and hope that things turn out the way we both want them to...which is with the offense clicking and creating one hell of a team, bc our defense is already more than pulling their weight.

This.
I’m glad we won but we still can’t score much at all and still have a Qb that can’t see downfield and won’t throw it 2nd level unless it’s a pre snap call. I would take 6-6 right now and could easily see 5-7.

[HoopsDawg]

Leach is very frustrating because he could be great today like he was great 20 years ago but he doesn't care at all to adjust his offense. Briles and Riley took his passing concepts and married it to a power spread running game and their offenses became dynamic. We also know that going to traditional splits helps the running game but doesn't hurt the passing game. Leach has no interest in doing either and that level of hubris/stubborness is mindblowing.

[Coach34]

Leach is very frustrating because he could be great today like he was great 20 years ago but he doesn't care at all to adjust his offense. Briles and Riley took his passing concepts and married it to a power spread running game and their offenses became dynamic. We also know that going to traditional splits helps the running game but doesn't hurt the passing game. Leach has no interest in doing either and that level of hubris/stubborness is mindblowing.

This all day. His refusal to tweak or change a little is the problem. You can get away with it in other conferences- not the SEC

[dawgman15]

This all day. His refusal to tweak or change a little is the problem. You can get away with it in other conferences- not the SEC

Aren't you supposed to be kicking rocks?

[Coach34]

We looked better, but the offense is still not good. Doesn't mean I hate Leach, like R2Dawg said, it just means I don't share your opinion. I also don't know where y'all are getting this "6-7 wins is the floor now", stuff....outside of Memphis, Vandy, and Tennessee State, there are no gimmes. And considering how little our offense is putting up points (only 2 scores yesterday), some might not consider Memphis a gimme either.

I would love nothing more than for Leach to win big here....but so far through a season and 2 games, the only true weakness on our team is his unit. So until that unit shows some semblance of life, I can't see us winning under him, and I surely can't put automatic wins on the schedule after squeaking by La Tech after trailing by 20. I hope he turns the offense into a force sooner than later, but for anyone to wonder why some may have doubts, is willfully sticking your head in the sand.

I'll agree to disagree with your opinion, and hope that things turn out the way we both want them to...which is with the offense clicking and creating one hell of a team, bc our defense is already more than pulling their weight.

This is the post right here- well done.

While it's only 2 games- some numbers:

We are 79th in the country in Total Offense (Memphis leads the country)
We are 16th in the country is Passing Offense
We are 71st in the country in Scoring Offense
We are 128th in Rushing Offense (which will be about where we finish)

Our fans will continue to make excuses because thats what our fans do- but at some point the offense has to deliver results. I dont see anything going on with the offense that leads me to believe we will score many points against a defense with a pulse.

[RezDog7]

This is the post right here- well done.

While it's only 2 games- some numbers:

We are 79th in the country in Total Offense (Memphis leads the country)
We are 16th in the country is Passing Offense
We are 71st in the country in Scoring Offense
We are 128th in Rushing Offense (which will be about where we finish)

Our fans will continue to make excuses because thats what our fans do- but at some point the offense has to deliver results. I dont see anything going on with the offense that leads me to believe we will score many points against a defense with a pulse.

How is the offense going to look good against such a veteran and dominate team like NC State. I lost my trailer home after taking NC State because you said we had no shot at beating them.

[Coach34]

How is the offense going to look good against such a veteran and dominate team like NC State. I lost my trailer home after taking NC State because you said we had no shot at beating them.

17 points and 300 yards of offense- basically lower half of the country

[HoopsDawg]

How is the offense going to look good against such a veteran and dominate team like NC State. I lost my trailer home after taking NC State because you said we had no shot at beating them.

NC State is not an SEC West caliber team. But we won that game thanks to an outstanding performance from our Defense and the Tulu kick return.

[TrapGame]

NC State is not an SEC West caliber team. But we won that game thanks to an outstanding performance from our Defense and the Tulu kick return.

That wasn't the mantra last week. Now we've moved goalposts to Memphis so let's see what happens. One of you blind squirrels has got to find a nut somewhere.

[HancockCountyDog]

That wasn't the mantra last week. Now we've moved goalposts to Memphis so let's see what happens. One of you blind squirrels has got to find a nut somewhere.

To be fair - everyone was saying La Tech was awful before our game, and then they were a borderline playoff team after the game, so at least we are consistent.

[Turfdawg67]

That wasn't the mantra last week. Now we've moved goalposts to Memphis so let's see what happens. One of you blind squirrels has got to find a nut somewhere.

Ha, ha! Exactly. These ppl hated Mullen winning 4 OoC games and whipping KY and Vandy every year. Now that he's not here, he was the greatest coach ever! You can't win with these ppl, they are never happy.

[HoopsDawg]

Ha, ha! Exactly. These ppl hated Mullen winning 4 OoC games and whipping KY and Vandy every year. Now that he's not here, he was the greatest coach ever! You can't win with these ppl, they are never happy.

The majority of people loved Mullen until he started looking to leave around Thanksgiving every year.

[OLJWales]

This is the post right here- well done.

While it's only 2 games- some numbers:

We are 79th in the country in Total Offense (Memphis leads the country)
We are 16th in the country is Passing Offense
We are 71st in the country in Scoring Offense
We are 128th in Rushing Offense (which will be about where we finish)

Our fans will continue to make excuses because thats what our fans do- but at some point the offense has to deliver results. I dont see anything going on with the offense that leads me to believe we will score many points against a defense with a pulse.

Memphis has played Nichols and A-sate. Their offensive numbers mean absolute Dick.

[HancockCountyDog]

Memphis has played Nichols and A-sate. Their offensive numbers mean absolute Dick.

Completely agree - I don't understand the -3 line. Its honestly one of the most confusing lines I've ever seen. It should easily be -10 or more. I thought it would be around -14.

[OLJWales]

Completely agree - I don't understand the -3 line. Its honestly one of the most confusing lines I've ever seen. It should easily be -10 or more. I thought it would be around -14.

The line shocks me too and if it doesn't move I'll have a tad bit of concern.

[Johnson85]

We looked better, but the offense is still not good. Doesn't mean I hate Leach, like R2Dawg said, it just means I don't share your opinion. I also don't know where y'all are getting this "6-7 wins is the floor now", stuff....outside of Memphis, Vandy, and Tennessee State, there are no gimmes. And considering how little our offense is putting up points (only 2 scores yesterday), some might not consider Memphis a gimme either.

I would love nothing more than for Leach to win big here....but so far through a season and 2 games, the only true weakness on our team is his unit. So until that unit shows some semblance of life, I can't see us winning under him, and I surely can't put automatic wins on the schedule after squeaking by La Tech after trailing by 20. I hope he turns the offense into a force sooner than later, but for anyone to wonder why some may have doubts, is willfully sticking your head in the sand.

I'll agree to disagree with your opinion, and hope that things turn out the way we both want them to...which is with the offense clicking and creating one hell of a team, bc our defense is already more than pulling their weight.

5 wins is the floor. That's assuming that if we have a patented Mike Leach wtf loss that we also offset it with a patented Mike Leach upset.

But after those five wins, you have UK, A&M, LSU, Arky, and Ole Miss that look winnable now. Don't expect to be favored in any of those, but none of those five look out of reach. If I were forced to make a bet, I'd put the bet on 6 wins. I don't think 7 wins is that much less likely than 5 wins though.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Nothing is a lean to a win other than Tenn State or whoever that is.
Everything else is a battle. Time to strap it up and get after it.

[HoopsDawg]

Nothing is a lean to a win other than Tenn State or whoever that is.
Everything else is a battle. Time to strap it up and get after it.

Vandy is awful.