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    Should we have declined the false start penalty?

    On the LaTech 54 yard FG with the backup fg kicker in the game?

    I say yes

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    Since they had timeouts I think they were trying to draw us offside for the free 1st down and were gonna call timeout and go for it anyway.

    That?s speculation though

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    I say no, you don't not back someone up another 5 yards to get them out of field goal range. It was still fourth down.

    What you do is don't allow a 1st down on 4th and 11.

    For all the worries about Leach and his offense, the defense is a bigger concern to me.

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    I would have.

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    I don't think you can decline a pre-snap penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    I don't think you can decline a pre-snap penalty.
    You can decline any penalty

    We made them jump on purpose. When they lined up for the FG- we shifted real fast making the line think the ball had been snapped. Sp no- we were never going to decline it considering we made them jump on purpose. We wanted it to be 4th and long instead of hoping for a missed kick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    You can decline any penalty

    We made them jump on purpose. When they lined up for the FG- we shifted real fast making the line think the ball had been snapped. Sp no- we were never going to decline it considering we made them jump on purpose. We wanted it to be 4th and long instead of hoping for a missed kick
    Lol, true...but I still knew they'd convert that 4th and long. In the moment, I wanted them to kick that long FG....but I didn't know they'd send their club-footed pigmy out there to croquet the shit out of the ball, lol. It all worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Lol, true...but I still knew they'd convert that 4th and long. In the moment, I wanted them to kick that long FG....but I didn't know they'd send their club-footed pigmy out there to croquet the shit out of the ball, lol. It all worked out.
    So was it touched or blocked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    You can decline any penalty

    We made them jump on purpose. When they lined up for the FG- we shifted real fast making the line think the ball had been snapped. Sp no- we were never going to decline it considering we made them jump on purpose. We wanted it to be 4th and long instead of hoping for a missed kick
    Yep. I like Brock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    So was it touched or blocked?
    I think it was tipped. As soon as it went past the line it took on all the characteristics of a dying quail.

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    Should we have declined the false start penalty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    On the LaTech 54 yard FG with the backup fg kicker in the game?

    I say yes
    I was wondering this same thing and wondered what the odds are since it seems every coach is so analytical these days. I couldn't find exact matches, but this was at least somewhat comparable.

    52 Yard Field Goal Percentage (per 2018 power 5 schools 6 of 17 attempts) 35.2%
    2020 3rd down percentage rate for 3 and 9/10 31.4%

    No way I would check the below websites, but moral of story is seems like taking the penalty would be the right decision. However each are very comparable. AND since we won it was the right decision! haha

    https://watchstadium.com/collegekick...re-06-11-2019/

    https://staturdays.com/2021/01/14/co...istance-to-go/

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    I think it was tipped. As soon as it went past the line it took on all the characteristics of a dying quail.
    That's what I thought but there hasn't been a lot of talk about a 'tipped' ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    That's what I thought but there hasn't been a lot of talk about a 'tipped' ball.
    They have since changed the stats to a blocked FG according to Steve R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogsmsu View Post
    They have since changed the stats to a blocked FG according to Steve R.
    Interesting. Watching the replay, I thought he just whiffed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Interesting. Watching the replay, I thought he just whiffed it.
    Yeah hard to see it, I agree. But the ball moved like a partially blocked FG.

    https://norfolkdailynews.com/louisia...22c7fdeb5.html

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    After viewing the game on TV again, it looks like Jaden Crumedy (#94) broke through the middle and tipped it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    On the LaTech 54 yard FG with the backup fg kicker in the game?

    I say yes
    I know in baseball when you go against certain rules like intentionally waking the go ahead run it usually seems to bite you in the ass. No idea if football is the same way but to me it seems like a similar situation to a baseball guy.

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    4th and 10 is still a low percentage play for the offense and our defense had been playing well. Taking the penalty and pushing them out of field goal range was the right call.

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    I watched 5 times. I never saw anyone?s arm even near it. But I was 15 beers in at the time. Looked like the guy just hit the ground with his foot and stubbed it.
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    Never saw it. But yea someone had to get a finger on it.

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