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    Will Hall era?a big turd of a start

    uSA stomped them

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    Worst mistake USM ever made was thinking they had risen to some type of high level status where averaging 7-9 wins a season under Jeff Bower was no longer good enough. It has been a dumpster fire ever since Bower?s talent was no longer on campus. Larry Fedora rode Bower?s talent to a better gig and it?s been rough since. Hall will need time and patience to be remotely successful. I hate it for him because I feel he is a good one.
    Last edited by No BS Dawg; 09-06-2021 at 09:39 AM. Reason: Add Larry Fedora

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    Will is going to get them rolling. He knows every school in this state from the 6A powerhouses to the backroad 1A private school. He?s going to get talent in there but it will take him a couple of years.

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    Todd Monken did a good job down there and got out as soon as he could after mild success.

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    USM needs to hit the transfer portal big time. They can no longer depend on getting the overlooked small school kid from small town Mississippi, the coast, Mobile or south Louisiana anymore.

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    Remind me again why Hopson resigned?

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    If USM has a football program 5 years from now I will be surprised.

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    In 5 years, they will be FCS or whatever division is created between FBS and FCS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    USM needs to hit the transfer portal big time. They can no longer depend on getting the overlooked small school kid from small town Mississippi, the coast, Mobile or south Louisiana anymore.
    This. But I'm surprised they haven't done this yet

    If La Tech can do it, they should have no problem.

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    Why did Hopson resign again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    Why did Hopson resign again?
    They wanted him gone and his recruiting was terrible. So of course we hire him for recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    USM needs to hit the transfer portal big time. They can no longer depend on getting the overlooked small school kid from small town Mississippi, the coast, Mobile or south Louisiana anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    If USM has a football program 5 years from now I will be surprised.
    That's the thing that's so different now. Not sure that is in Hall's wheelhouse or not. Back in the pre-portal days you really needed someone that could recruit in state really well to build a team. Now you can do it overnight with the portal like La Tech did. We'll see if it works for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    They wanted him gone and his recruiting was terrible. So of course we hire him for recruiting.
    I have a hard time believing that, he was winning and went to 4 straight bowl games. He was kicking ass there

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    Why did Hopson resign again?
    It was a mixture of he was burned out, he was losing players, his recruiting was subpar, and the results were starting to show all that. He had a meeting with the USM AD the Friday after the bowl game and they came to a mutual understanding that it was best for him to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No BS Dawg View Post
    Worst mistake USM ever made was thinking they had risen to some type of high level status where averaging 7-9 wins a season under Jeff Bower was no longer good enough. It has been a dumpster fire ever since Bower?s talent was no longer on campus. Larry Fedora rode Bower?s talent to a better gig and it?s been rough since. Hall will need time and patience to be remotely successful. I hate it for him because I feel he is a good one.
    We need to look in the mirror a bit on that first part about 7-9 wins. We had fans calling for mullen to be gone 3 years before he actually left. We did the same thing to Mullen. Now he obviously had the intention of getting out of here. That being said the next Mullen we get we better do everything we can to hold onto him. It takes years to move from that 7-9 wins to consistently winning 10-12 games a season. Most all of the top 25 in CFB generally wins 7-9 games with the occasional surprise 10+ win season outside of your top 5-6 teams.

    There is a fine line between striving for championships and being realistic in where we are and what it takes to get to that point. We were the closest we have ever been under Mullen. Cant let that slip away next go around.

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    Whats Bower up to these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    I have a hard time believing that, he was winning and went to 4 straight bowl games. He was kicking ass there
    This is not true. He went to 3 bowl games in 5 seasons, missing bowls in 2 of his last 3 years. Hopson's overall record at USM was 28 - 23.
    5 games over .500 in that awful conference is far from "kicking ass"

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    It was a mixture of he was burned out, he was losing players, his recruiting was subpar, and the results were starting to show all that. He had a meeting with the USM AD the Friday after the bowl game and they came to a mutual understanding that it was best for him to move on.
    That makes sense thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by MStateDawg View Post
    This is not true. He went to 3 bowl games in 5 seasons, missing bowls in 2 of his last 3 years. Hopson's overall record at USM was 28 - 23.
    5 games over .500 in that awful conference is far from "kicking ass"
    Wikipedia was wrong then

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    Quote Originally Posted by MStateDawg View Post
    This is not true. He went to 3 bowl games in 5 seasons, missing bowls in 2 of his last 3 years. Hopson's overall record at USM was 28 - 23.
    5 games over .500 in that awful conference is far from "kicking ass"
    Won 7, 8, 6 and 7 games in his 4 full years. I bet they would take that now

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