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    NIL deals at msu

    Largest one by any athlete we have....$3600 .....

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    This rule could send us straight to the bottom of sec football

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    This rule could send us straight to the bottom of sec football
    We're not going to even try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    We're not going to even try.
    Doesn't seem like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Doesn't seem like it
    See comment above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    See comment above
    And, btw....I/we (my wife is also a MSU graduate) donate our fair share to the university....and we don't even get to reap the immediate rewards of such generosity by getting season tickets and whatnot....because we live in ****ing Massachusetts.

    I guess I should quit my university job and start a lobster roll truck and sponsor the next great MSU place kicker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    We're not going to even try.
    I laugh at these comments. Why don't you pony up then?? Easy to spend everyone else's money isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    I laugh at these comments. Why don't you pony up then?? Easy to spend everyone else's money isn't it.
    Lol, ok. Don't be a glib douche. I forgot that prior to the NIL rule, the backbone of college recruiting was built on the backs of lowly college professors, lol. Why shouldn't it be the same now?

    Meanwhile, schools that take this shit seriously, even smaller schools without winning traditions (like an OM, for example), are about to wax our ass...

    But cool story, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Lol, ok. Don't be a glib douche. I forgot that prior to the NIL rule, the backbone of college recruiting was built on the backs of lowly college professors, lol. Why shouldn't it be the same now?

    Meanwhile, schools that take this shit seriously, even smaller schools without winning traditions (like an OM, for example), are about to wax our ass...


    But cool story, bro.
    Just wondering what was stopping you. Since everyone else is so cheap. You can do one yourself. Have at it.
    Should have known you were a prof....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    I laugh at these comments. Why don't you pony up then?? Easy to spend everyone else's money isn't it.
    you are not getting it

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    This rule could send us straight to the bottom of sec football
    I'll be honest. When the NIL passed, and all the threads saying we were doomed, I scoffed....

    If this is how unserious we are about it, I was obviously way wrong. It's the equivalent of forfeiting before the race even starts if this is how we're going about this.

    There is still time, but they better get their shit together. Considering how much Starkville has grown, how much advertisement potential there is, re: restaurants, bars/clubs, etc...there has to be more there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    I'll be honest. When the NIL passed, and all the threads saying we were doomed, I scoffed....

    If this is how unserious we are about it, I was obviously way wrong. It's the equivalent of forfeiting before the race even starts if this is how we're going about this.

    There is still time, but they better get their shit together. Considering how much Starkville has grown, how much advertisement potential there is, re: restaurants, bars/clubs, etc...there has to be more there...
    Honestly, from a football perspective only what kind of roi would a business get from using one of our current players?? Dak would have done well but we don't have a dak. I never thought this was a good idea for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Honestly, from a football perspective only what kind of roi would a business get from using one of our current players?? Dak would have done well but we don't have a dak. I never thought this was a good idea for us.
    That's a fair point. But it's all relative. Obviously we're not going to compete with a Bama, Georgia, OSU, Texas, etc. in this NIL deal. But we weren't with the previous system either. So what's changed?

    What we have to do, is compete with the other fish our size in the pond (e.g., OM, Ark, SC, KY, etc.). I guarantee you OM is already 10 steps ahead of us in this game, for a number of reasons. The fact we have never really taken recruiting seriously, however, will likely prove to be a symptomatic to why we don't succeed in this new system. Its up to the schools to go out and facilitate these relationships. They can do it any number of ways. Tax write offs. Perks. Box seats. Booster access. Etc.

    What's depressing, though, is we have the potential to succeed in this system...but we still have too much "ole mississippi state" in us, and we refuse to change with the times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    That's a fair point. But it's all relative. Obviously we're not going to compete with a Bama, Georgia, OSU, Texas, etc. in this NIL deal. But we weren't with the previous system either. So what's changed?

    What we have to do, is compete with the other fish our size in the pond (e.g., OM, Ark, SC, KY, etc.). I guarantee you OM is already 10 steps ahead of us in this game, for a number of reasons. The fact we have never really taken recruiting seriously, however, will likely prove to be a symptomatic to why we don't succeed in this new system. Its up to the schools to go out and facilitate these relationships. They can do it any number of ways. Tax write offs. Perks. Box seats. Booster access. Etc.

    What's depressing, though, is we have the potential to succeed in this system...but we still have too much "ole mississippi state" in us, and we refuse to change with the times.
    We're afraid to pay money in fear that we'll just drive up the price & still get outbid by blue bloods

    The longer I live the more I realize why our state is close to 50 in everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Honestly, from a football perspective only what kind of roi would a business get from using one of our current players?? Dak would have done well but we don't have a dak. I never thought this was a good idea for us.
    Alumni would support a business that supported our school. If you are a starkville business that is dependent on the university and activity created by the university (which is going to be most businesses), you should probably be willing to put a decent amount into this, as the football team tanking is most likely going to hit your business pretty hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Alumni would support a business that supported our school. If you are a starkville business that is dependent on the university and activity created by the university (which is going to be most businesses), you should probably be willing to put a decent amount into this, as the football team tanking is most likely going to hit your business pretty hard.
    Sure. But the ones they would use wouldn't be gaining anything. And certainly not any large amount of money. I'll use two examples, little dooey they wouldn't sell 1000k worrh of more food if they had NIL deal w will Rogers. The lodge, same way. There has to be a net gain for the business or at worst a draw unless you just like to throw your money away. And obviously, most well run businesses don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    This rule could send us straight to the bottom of sec football
    I missed where we were at the top of the SEC already. I mean, we've literally been at the bottom with Arkansas and OM since like, forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    I missed where we were at the top of the SEC already. I mean, we've literally been at the bottom with Arkansas and OM since like, forever.
    We've been pretty competitive with most schools in the SEC. If we don't step up, you are going to have a new perspective on what the bottom really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    This rule could send us straight to the bottom of sec football
    OHSt defeats Minnesota for the 46th time in 53 games. OHSt has won 12 in a row and 28 of last 29 v Minnesota. College football needs a reorganization anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    OHSt defeats Minnesota for the 46th time in 53 games. OHSt has won 12 in a row and 28 of last 29 v Minnesota. College football needs a reorganization anyways.
    The sport does need reorganization, but the reorganization shouldn't be to separate Ohio State from Minnesota. Minnesota has a great fan base, a great stadium, & a ton of fan potential. The reorganization needs to give Minnesota a chance so their fan base can grow.

    The only way for college football to grow is for more teams to have hope. People in Minnesota are never going to be Ohio State or Michigan fans. If Minnesota sucks, they'll just follow the Vikings or Twins more. The only way for the market share of college to increase is for parity rules that help give more teams a chance to compete
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