They're Coming After ND

[BulldogDX55]

The Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians say "HI"

A slur and a red-faced mascot. They deserve to be left in the past.

Tell me, how does getting rid of obviously racist mascots make your life worse in any measurable way?

[R2Dawg]

A slur and a red-faced mascot. They deserve to be left in the past.

Tell me, how does getting rid of obviously racist mascots make your life worse in any measurable way?

Since color matters so much to you what color is everyone's face supposed to be? Any color you choose is going to be wrong to someone. It ain't about color like so many are pushing. Color doesn't matter or it ain't supposed to per MLK (and he is right).

[SheltonChoked]

A slur and a red-faced mascot. They deserve to be left in the past.

Tell me, how does getting rid of obviously racist mascots make your life worse in any measurable way?

A buck toothed, Red faced, racist caricature, mascot.

Same with Washington Redskins. A slur on the lines of the N word. If it was the yellowskins with a slant eyed asian person, it's the same.

If Cleveland or Washington had a tribe that helped make the mascot, and approved, there would not have been an issue.

[thf24]

Since color matters so much to you what color is everyone's face supposed to be? Any color you choose is going to be wrong to someone. It ain't about color like so many are pushing. Color doesn't matter or it ain't supposed to per MLK (and he is right).

You're right, it's not the color itself that's the problem. No one arguing with any rationality is saying it is. The problem is the caricatured, derogatory features associated with the color of these mascots in question.

Look at FSU. Practically none have a problem with their mascot because all their imagery is a respectful, dignified representation of the Native American tribe that inspired it. Not so much the case when someone's ethnicity is represented by a comically deformed cartoon.

[Irondawg]

Also I think I saw this survey and it had less than 1,000 respondents so take it for what it?s worth

[OLJWales]

A buck toothed, Red faced, racist caricature, mascot.

Neither were an issue till white wokeness made them so. Just cuz you woke don't make you right.

Same with Washington Redskins. A slur on the lines of the N word. If it was the yellowskins with a slant eyed asian person, it's the same.

If Cleveland or Washington had a tribe that helped make the mascot, and approved, there would not have been an issue.

Neither teams mascot was an issue till white wokeness made them issues. Just cuz you woke don't make you right

[BeardoMSU]

Neither teams mascot was an issue till white wokeness made them issues. Just cuz you woke don't make you right

Simply not true.

Here is Russell Means, one of most prolific and important (if not the most important) activists for Native American rights in our country's history.



Though not pertaining to mascots, this is a rather famous senate testimony he gave years ago regarding the federal control over Lakota Sioux sacred land of the Black Hills. Compelling stuff.



Speaking of the Lakota...I'm sure you all remember massacre of Wounded Knee; in the aftermath of which, the US Govt awarded 20 Medals of Honor? Holy hell....

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

It's literally old timey slang for the slave owners wife. It really ought to go.

No Way......LITERALLY??? OR is it ACTUALLY an old timey slang for the slave owners wife??? Tell us ACTUALLY what do you mean??

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

White people always telling minorities what they should offended by

So what's your point 7?

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

OT: "it would have been cool for MSU to have been the Choctaws."

WRONG x 100

[Duckdog]

Simply not true.

Here is Russell Means, one of most prolific and important (if not the most important) activists for Native American rights in our country's history.



Though not pertaining to mascots, this is a rather famous senate testimony he gave years ago regarding the federal control over Lakota Sioux sacred land of the Black Hills. Compelling stuff.



Speaking of the Lakota...I'm sure you all remember massacre of Wounded Knee; in the aftermath of which, the US Govt awarded 20 Medals of Honor? Holy hell....

So what, they lost. You act like if native americans would have won the westward migration they would have been an accepting peaceful people. GIVE ME A BREAK

[secfan22]

This is where they lose all credibility. People of those heritages embrace those mascots. However they never say anything about "ole Miss".
I'm just waiting on the day someone tags/messages AOC (or one of the super liberals) the article about the origin of the ole Miss name and see what shakes out.

Actually we don't. "Ole Miss" has always been taught as a wish to return to the Ole Mississippi way of life, ie slavery. When my cousin played fball there (of course against out wishes) we would only buy things that spelled out University of Miss, and not Ole Miss because of negative connotations associated with it. Now, do I think some things are taken to far, absolutely.

[secfan22]

I guess his point is unless you actually live with it, you can't really say how or what someone should be offended by. imo

[OLJWales]

Simply not true.

Here is Russell Means, one of most prolific and important (if not the most important) activists for Native American rights in our country's history.



Though not pertaining to mascots, this is a rather famous senate testimony he gave years ago regarding the federal control over Lakota Sioux sacred land of the Black Hills. Compelling stuff.



Speaking of the Lakota...I'm sure you all remember massacre of Wounded Knee; in the aftermath of which, the US Govt awarded 20 Medals of Honor? Holy hell....

Doesn't matter 2021. The vast majority of Indians didn't give a shit. Just a SJW Crusade to divide us.

[Bothrops]

Doesn't matter 2021. The vast majority of Indians didn't give a shit. Just a SJW Crusade to divide us.

White SJW trash redesigned and reinvented racism, then manipulated the government until they became woke. And here we are today.

[BulldogDX55]

So what, they lost. You act like if native americans would have won the westward migration they would have been an accepting peaceful people. GIVE ME A BREAK

Do you not realize how incredibly racist this statement is?

Doesn't matter 2021. The vast majority of Indians didn't give a shit. Just a SJW Crusade to divide us.

What do people from India have to do with this? Have you interviewed most of them? Why would they care about American sports teams?

[Duckdog]

Do you not realize how incredibly racist this statement is?



What do people from India have to do with this? Have you interviewed most of them? Why would they care about American sports teams?

Please explain how its racist.

[secfan22]

Please explain how its racist.

Its probably the "accepting peaceful" part since they involuntarily was forced westward. Idk

[SheltonChoked]

Chief Wahoo was protested as a racist bigoted mascot since at least 1972 in Cleveland.

That you don't know that, doesn't make it not true.

[SheltonChoked]

Pretty sure the point was The US Government rewarded Genocide.

What the US did to the native americans is as bad as any other genocide. This is not a attempt to make you feel guilty, or assign current blame. Just facts. The US killed millions to make settling space for it's chosen people.

Same as Spain, the UK, Portugal, etc.