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[Extendedcab]

Those are immunizations, not vaccines. Almost 100% of the US has those immunizations, but only about 50% get the flu vaccine.

They were all vaccines!


Vaccination and immunization are related, although one describes an action while the other describes a process.

CDC Definition:

1) Vaccination is the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
2) Immunization is a process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination.

[MaroonFlounder]

They were all vaccines!


Vaccination and immunization are related, although one describes an action while the other describes a process.

CDC Definition:

1) Vaccination is the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
2) Immunization is a process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination.

1) It's not working. Thousands of fully vaccinated people are getting COVID or the DELTA variant/.

[SheltonChoked]

Those are immunizations, not vaccines. Almost 100% of the US has those immunizations, but only about 50% get the flu vaccine.

First there are breakthrough infections for Polio, Mumps, measles, and ALL VAccines....

There were 1200 cases of measles in the us in 2019. The measles vaccine is only 94% effective.... even with boosters...

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Different viruses different long term vaccine responses. This is what we have. And with 5,040,000,000 doses given, there shouldn't be any hold outs due to questions at this point.
There are other vaccines in the work that are taken through nose sprays that will keep you from contracting the virus. Until they are available, this is best we have and its the best we are going to have.
Either way, it is clear the vaccine keeps you out of the hospital. Why chance the dang high cost of going into an American Hospital.

At UMMC, out of 131 inpatients with Covid, 68% are unvaccinated. What was that number months ago? Closer to 90%? Hmmm...

There are also anti-body treatments for unvaccinated that are showing great results and keep people out of the hospital. From the medical people I know, whether people are vaccinated or not, people are not seeking treatment because they think the vaccine will save them or they don't know about the treatments mentioned above.

Where's the scientific data on vaccine immunity vs natural immunity and the length of time you are protected? It seems to be changing with the minute and now discussions of a 6 month booster are needed.

[Coach34]

At UMMC, out of 131 inpatients with Covid, 68% are unvaccinated. What was that number months ago? Closer to 90%? Hmmm...

There are also anti-body treatments for unvaccinated that are showing great results and keep people out of the hospital. From the medical people I know, whether people are vaccinated or not, people are not seeking treatment because they think the vaccine will save them or they don't know about the treatments mentioned above.

Where's the scientific data on vaccine immunity vs natural immunity and the length of time you are protected? It seems to be changing with the minute and now discussions of a 6 month booster are needed.

Good post. Antibody treatments are going well

[SheltonChoked]

As a ****ing treatment...

Vaccination prevents the increased viral load, faster than the Non FDA approved antibody treatment...

PS. The website that I have been sent to get the right IVM dosage has this ins the FAQ section....

Masks: the FLCCC position on when to wear them, and when not to wear them.
The aggressive spread of Covid-19 is thought to be primarily due to airborne (aerosol) spread. Inhaling tiny floating droplets directly into the nose/lungs is strongly, but not perfectly, prevented by wearing masks indoors...
It is the opinion of the FLCCC that mask wearing is critical

And...

About the Covid Vaccines
What is your position on vaccines?
The FLCCC Alliance has always maintained that our protocols are a bridge to vaccines and a safety net for those who clannot or have not been vaccinated or are vaccinated and have concerns regarding declining protection against emerging variants. Vaccines have shown efficacy in preventing the most severe outcomes of COVID-19 and are an important part of a multi-modal strategy that must also include early treatment.

[Coach34]

A) Taking the vaccine does not keep you from getting C19. It does however help with the severity.

B) We also have some great therapeutics in ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin. More studies are coming out showing this. Big Tech makes them harder to find- but they are there. A friend of mine had his wife get it. So did he after she tested positive. He never got tested. Got some ivermectin from the tractor supply place and was fine.

C) We are going to be in a constant state of panic push from the media and govt leaders until after the midterms.

D) Cases is not the concern. It's hospitalizations and deaths. A large number of asymptomatic cases are never even discovered.

[BeardoMSU]

B) We also have some great therapeutics in ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin. More studies are coming out showing this. Big Tech makes them harder to find- but they are there. A friend of mine had his wife get it. So did he after she tested positive. He never got tested. Got some ivermectin from the tractor supply place and was fine.

[ScoobaDawg]

Mississippi gonna Mississippi.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Well it's obvious that what's going on in Afghanistan is the result of the unvaccinated. If you would just get your shot, Biden wouldn't have been distracted and maybe not botched our exit...

[MrCoachKlein]

https://www.jpost.com/health-science...er-1day-675612

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8101859/

[BeardoMSU]

https://www.jpost.com/health-science...er-1day-675612

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8101859/

I just read the article in the second link. They note the limitations in their sample size, the dosage size given, the number of dosages given, etc. Read the last paragraph of the discussion.

They basically state that with a SINGLE dose, based on the weight of the patient, symptoms such as coughing, breathing labor, and blood-cell counts COULD BE improved, but was still inconclusive as to how much for how long.

[MrCoachKlein]

I just read the article in the second link. They note the limitations in their sample size, the dosage size given, the number of dosages given, etc. Read the last paragraph of the discussion.

They basically state that with a SINGLE dose, based on the weight of the patient, symptoms such as coughing, breathing labor, and blood-cell counts COULD BE improved, but was still inconclusive as to how much for how long.

It definitely needs more studies for use against the WuFlu, but it has been proven completely safe for human consumption over decades unlike EUA "vaccines"....So it could help and won't harm you.

[BeardoMSU]

https://www.jpost.com/health-science...er-1day-675612

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8101859/

Unfortunately, the first link you gave doesn't provide the actual study it discusses (unless I missed it somewhere), so I couldn't read it fully, unfortunately.

Something did, however, stick out to me in the article...

"The study appeared on the MedRxiv health-research sharing site. It has not yet been peer reviewed."

[Cowboydawg]

Dude, I hope you recover quickly and keep the exposure to only you.

Do you gentlemen not understand the 95% efficacy rate and how that works. Do you also not understand that coverage could and now does wane over time? Neither have ever been contradicted by someone that supports the vaccine.

Here is the brass tax people. Scientist deal in facts of the moment they are gathered. They do not have to be 100% completely 17n correct at all times. Regardless, the scientist dealing with COVID vaccines and involved in protecting the welfare of our citizens is light years more functional and correct than the naysayers. People try to hold them to some 100% correct standard, that is laughable. But they said mask are not useful and then they said they were...... Cry me a river.

So scientist do not have to be correct 100% of the time, and just because they were temporarily incorrect on one thing doesn't mean they are completely full of shit on other items.

We know infinitely more now than we did when this thing started.

So give us the statistics and facts that support a perfectly healthy 18-20 year old getting vaccinated.

[SheltonChoked]

The same as for a healthy 6 month old getting a Hepatitis Vax, or Chickenpox vax.

Why wait"until they need it" when you don't know "when they will need it"

[BeardoMSU]

Vaccines? Na, don't trust 'em.....but give me that equine de-wormer purchased from the local co-op.**

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/he...a-e8618b35d9fd

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/23/10302...misinformation

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...ovid-fda-urges

[Cowboydawg]

At UMMC, out of 131 inpatients with Covid, 68% are unvaccinated. What was that number months ago? Closer to 90%? Hmmm...

There are also anti-body treatments for unvaccinated that are showing great results and keep people out of the hospital. From the medical people I know, whether people are vaccinated or not, people are not seeking treatment because they think the vaccine will save them or they don't know about the treatments mentioned above.

Where's the scientific data on vaccine immunity vs natural immunity and the length of time you are protected? It seems to be changing with the minute and now discussions of a 6 month booster are needed.

This. The vaccine was built up like a cure but the narrative has constantly changed. What happened to get the vaccine to save other people?s lives. Get the vaccine and you don?t have to wear as mask anymore. Get the vaccine so you won?t get Covid. Fact is nobody knew. So expect the unexpected.

From the last outbreak until the new outbreak?why were we blindsided? Why weren?t hospitals fully staffed anticipating another surge? Why wasn?t there a bigger focus on equipping family practitioners to treat it? Why are people still leaving the doctors office covid positive with no plan of treatment. Focus should have been on treatment. Everybody should have access to the antibody treatment by now.

You can take a diet pill to lose weight but actually treating it with diet and exercise is more effective in the long run. But we can push this diet pill and make a lot more money.

[MaroonFlounder]

This. The vaccine was built up like a cure but the narrative has constantly changed. What happened to get the vaccine to save other people?s lives. Get the vaccine and you don?t have to wear as mask anymore. Get the vaccine so you won?t get Covid. Fact is nobody knew. So expect the unexpected.

From the last outbreak until the new outbreak?why were we blindsided? Why weren?t hospitals fully staffed anticipating another surge? Why wasn?t there a bigger focus on equipping family practitioners to treat it? Why are people still leaving the doctors office covid positive with no plan of treatment. Focus should have been on treatment. Everybody should have access to the antibody treatment by now.

You can take a diet pill to lose weight but actually treating it with diet and exercise is more effective in the long run. But we can push this diet pill and make a lot more money.

BINGO.

I felt like I had gotten COVID. I got the test. I was positive. The CLINIC got their positive test and I was sent home with no meds or treatment. They didn't care. Were they told not to care to help push the vaccine? We are all test subjects.

[SheltonChoked]

This. The vaccine was built up like a cure but the narrative has constantly changed. What happened to get the vaccine to save other people?s lives. Get the vaccine and you don?t have to wear as mask anymore. Get the vaccine so you won?t get Covid. Fact is nobody knew. So expect the unexpected.

From the last outbreak until the new outbreak?why were we blindsided? Why weren?t hospitals fully staffed anticipating another surge? Why wasn?t there a bigger focus on equipping family practitioners to treat it? Why are people still leaving the doctors office covid positive with no plan of treatment. Focus should have been on treatment. Everybody should have access to the antibody treatment by now.

You can take a diet pill to lose weight but actually treating it with diet and exercise is more effective in the long run. But we can push this diet pill and make a lot more money.

No, It was called a vaccine. Again those of us that know understood nothing is 100%, and like every other vaccine dating back to Jenner, all have breakthrough infections that are milder than those not vaccinated.

But we also knew that if you got everyone vaccinated, it could be like chickenpox, measles, smallpox, mumps, polio, and be very rare.

But meanwhile you ****ers want to get sick and try malaria meds or wormer and hope it works...

Then when a new variant come out due to mutaing in unvaccinated, you blame the vaccine...

I'm starting to root for the virus... or that you all OD or horse wormer.

As for "fully staffing". the hospitals were. But how will pay for all those "standby medical personnel". The Feds like MiSississipi is counting on?

It's way cheaper and more cost effective to count on PREVENTION, not treatment.

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.