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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    Not entirely correct. As of late last week, 3 of the ICU patients at UMC were FULLY VACCINATED.
    A couple of number comparisons...




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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    Not entirely correct. As of late last week, 3 of the ICU patients at UMC were FULLY VACCINATED.
    Also to add...

    https://www.axios.com/unvaccinated-h...a22b9f214.html

    https://www.wsfa.com/2021/08/23/94-a...-unvaccinated/

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/vast-major...ry?id=79128401

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-vaccines.html

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    Vaccines? Na, don't trust 'em.....but give me that equine de-wormer purchased from the local co-op.**

    https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/he...a-e8618b35d9fd

    https://www.npr.org/2021/08/23/10302...misinformation

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...ovid-fda-urges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I had to get vaccines to attend MSU. Not sure how this is different if they require students to get the vaccine to attend.
    It's different because those vaccines you took back in the day went through YEARS of clinical trials. This one has not.

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    Ivermectin is recommended by a large number of physicians with studies to back it up

    https://c19ivermectin.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    At UMMC, out of 131 inpatients with Covid, 68% are unvaccinated. What was that number months ago? Closer to 90%? Hmmm...

    There are also anti-body treatments for unvaccinated that are showing great results and keep people out of the hospital. From the medical people I know, whether people are vaccinated or not, people are not seeking treatment because they think the vaccine will save them or they don't know about the treatments mentioned above.

    Where's the scientific data on vaccine immunity vs natural immunity and the length of time you are protected? It seems to be changing with the minute and now discussions of a 6 month booster are needed.
    This. The vaccine was built up like a cure but the narrative has constantly changed. What happened to get the vaccine to save other people?s lives. Get the vaccine and you don?t have to wear as mask anymore. Get the vaccine so you won?t get Covid. Fact is nobody knew. So expect the unexpected.

    From the last outbreak until the new outbreak?why were we blindsided? Why weren?t hospitals fully staffed anticipating another surge? Why wasn?t there a bigger focus on equipping family practitioners to treat it? Why are people still leaving the doctors office covid positive with no plan of treatment. Focus should have been on treatment. Everybody should have access to the antibody treatment by now.

    You can take a diet pill to lose weight but actually treating it with diet and exercise is more effective in the long run. But we can push this diet pill and make a lot more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Ivermectin is recommended by a large number of physicians with studies to back it up

    https://c19ivermectin.com/
    Where in that link does it say get your dosages, packaged as a horse de-wormer, from the local tractor supply store?

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    Hydroxy studies:

    https://c19hcq.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Mississippi gonna Mississippi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboydawg View Post
    This. The vaccine was built up like a cure but the narrative has constantly changed. What happened to get the vaccine to save other people?s lives. Get the vaccine and you don?t have to wear as mask anymore. Get the vaccine so you won?t get Covid. Fact is nobody knew. So expect the unexpected.

    From the last outbreak until the new outbreak?why were we blindsided? Why weren?t hospitals fully staffed anticipating another surge? Why wasn?t there a bigger focus on equipping family practitioners to treat it? Why are people still leaving the doctors office covid positive with no plan of treatment. Focus should have been on treatment. Everybody should have access to the antibody treatment by now.

    You can take a diet pill to lose weight but actually treating it with diet and exercise is more effective in the long run. But we can push this diet pill and make a lot more money.
    BINGO.

    I felt like I had gotten COVID. I got the test. I was positive. The CLINIC got their positive test and I was sent home with no meds or treatment. They didn't care. Were they told not to care to help push the vaccine? We are all test subjects.

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    Well it's obvious that what's going on in Afghanistan is the result of the unvaccinated. If you would just get your shot, Biden wouldn't have been distracted and maybe not botched our exit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    saddened and disappointed in My University. My family is 3 generations of Bulldogs. Got one daughter there now and another probably on the way unless this continues to spiral.

    MSU has lost it's care for people. Freshmen in the dorm that get Covid are kicked out in the streets and out of class with no way to do school. In some majors that could fail you for the semester. Not only that but many will be homeless and living out of their cars. Heck let Rice Hall be opened for a Covid ward if that is what it takes.

    Where is our humanity? Do we really treat our fellow brothers and sisters like this? A freshman in college is hard enough.

    Take the FAMILY BS out at MSU slogans if this is who we are now. This ain't how you treat family. Really disappointed in Keenum's leadership.

    This is not a Covid/Vaccine thread. This is about treating people respectfully and humanely and caring about others. Yes I know the stunt is about trying to force kids to take a vaccine that is only 40% effective against a virus that doesn't even hurt kids.
    Doesn't hurt kids????? You haven't paid much attention.

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    I just read the article in the second link. They note the limitations in their sample size, the dosage size given, the number of dosages given, etc. Read the last paragraph of the discussion.

    They basically state that with a SINGLE dose, based on the weight of the patient, symptoms such as coughing, breathing labor, and blood-cell counts COULD BE improved, but was still inconclusive as to how much for how long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    Doesn't hurt kids????? You haven't paid much attention.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...vid-by-age-us/

    2/3 of the deaths are 65-older

    only 361 deaths our of 614,000 17 and under- and lots of those had co-morbidities.
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    Unfortunately, the first link you gave doesn't provide the actual study it discusses (unless I missed it somewhere), so I couldn't read it fully, unfortunately.

    Something did, however, stick out to me in the article...

    "The study appeared on the MedRxiv health-research sharing site. It has not yet been peer reviewed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    saddened and disappointed in My University. My family is 3 generations of Bulldogs. Got one daughter there now and another probably on the way unless this continues to spiral.

    MSU has lost it's care for people. Freshmen in the dorm that get Covid are kicked out in the streets and out of class with no way to do school. In some majors that could fail you for the semester. Not only that but many will be homeless and living out of their cars. Heck let Rice Hall be opened for a Covid ward if that is what it takes.

    Where is our humanity? Do we really treat our fellow brothers and sisters like this? A freshman in college is hard enough.

    Take the FAMILY BS out at MSU slogans if this is who we are now. This ain't how you treat family. Really disappointed in Keenum's leadership.

    This is not a Covid/Vaccine thread. This is about treating people respectfully and humanely and caring about others. Yes I know the stunt is about trying to force kids to take a vaccine that is only 40% effective against a virus that doesn't even hurt kids.
    That's only true if the kids are not vaccinated.... If they are vaccinated, https://www.msstate.edu/covid19/vaccine/faq

    However, there are several benefits to receiving the COVID-19 vaccine. These include:

    You would not have to quarantine if you are fully vaccinated and show no symptoms after being exposed to someone with COVID-19.
    And the vaccine is much more than 40% effective vs Covid...

    If you decide not to get the MMR vaccine, they won't let you in school, at all in Mississippi....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...vid-by-age-us/

    2/3 of the deaths are 65-older

    only 361 deaths our of 614,000 17 and under- and lots of those had co-morbidities.
    I understand. But read some of my posts about my son. 21 years old and as healthy as an SEC athlete. Never misses a workout. Almost ended up in the hospital. It's the sickest he's ever been. He's perfectly fine now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...vid-by-age-us/

    2/3 of the deaths are 65-older

    only 361 deaths our of 614,000 17 and under- and lots of those had co-morbidities.
    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    I understand. But read some of my posts about my son. 21 years old and as healthy as an SEC athlete. Never misses a workout. Almost ended up in the hospital. It's the sickest he's ever been. He's perfectly fine now though.
    Yep.

    https://www.wfla.com/community/healt...up-in-florida/

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/pedi...-for-more.html

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimam...h=6bf9624a73f1

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-2021-n1277119

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...s-covid-delta/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    It's only different in how long the vaccines have been out before becoming mandatory versus the severity of the disease. While MRNA tech isn't new, to my knowledge there haven't been any vaccines with it so people are understandably concerned about whether there might be long term, unknown effects.

    For the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, I don't think it is different, but I'm not positive. The only new vaccine I can remember recently was the one for HPV. And there was a stink about making that mandatory, which some states did I think pretty quickly (I know it hurt Rick Perry in his campaign; his argument was that making it mandatory ensured it was covered by insurance, and then there was an opt out procedure). I'm not sure how long it has typically taken to get from the development of a vaccine to it being made mandatory, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is usually done within a couple of years, so with not much better long term data than we have now. And we basically have a new flu vaccine every year, and I'm not sure the Johnson and Johnson is really different. Probably a little more likely to have adverse effects from the stress of your immune response, so probably more dangerous, but once you get through that initial response (which we do have data on, if imperfect), I don't know why there would be any particular concern about long term, unknown effects that wouldn't be there for say the flu vaccine. Not saying their isn't, but it's basically the same technology as far as I understand it.
    How many people in the US died Of Measles in 1962, before the Measles vaccine? Mumps? Rubella? What is the effectiveness of that vaccine? How many shots/boosters does it take?

    How many died of Hepatitis pre vaccine? Diphtheria? Chickenpox?

    Now tell me how being mandatory vs "severity of the disease"....

    Link for those too lazy to look it up.
    https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
    In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.

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