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    Bulldogs were is our humanity. First time in my lifetime I am

    saddened and disappointed in My University. My family is 3 generations of Bulldogs. Got one daughter there now and another probably on the way unless this continues to spiral.

    MSU has lost it's care for people. Freshmen in the dorm that get Covid are kicked out in the streets and out of class with no way to do school. In some majors that could fail you for the semester. Not only that but many will be homeless and living out of their cars. Heck let Rice Hall be opened for a Covid ward if that is what it takes.

    Where is our humanity? Do we really treat our fellow brothers and sisters like this? A freshman in college is hard enough.

    Take the FAMILY BS out at MSU slogans if this is who we are now. This ain't how you treat family. Really disappointed in Keenum's leadership.

    This is not a Covid/Vaccine thread. This is about treating people respectfully and humanely and caring about others. Yes I know the stunt is about trying to force kids to take a vaccine that is only 40% effective against a virus that doesn't even hurt kids.

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    Keenum has never been a leader. He is a soft politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    a vaccine that is only 40% effective
    Lol, you say this after saying this isn't a "vaccine thread". Jesus.

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    I thought we had a motel we housed them in while they quarantined. Did we stop that after the last spike?

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    95% of all Covid Patients in the entire state are unvaccinated. Tell 17n lies somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    95% of all Covid Patients in the entire state are unvaccinated. Tell 17n lies somewhere else.
    How do you know that % is correct? The MEDIA tells lies. THEY are the ones with the agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    I thought we had a motel we housed them in while they quarantined. Did we stop that after the last spike?
    We did last year. I would imagine the numbers are way too high to do it this year.

    The vaccine is free. It has been available since damn April. 5.04 billion doses have been put into arms. 5.04 billion over the course of 9 months.

    Get the shot. Or don?t. Totally up to you. You get COVID and you will be asked to leave class and campus. It will impact your grades. I feel like everyone has been upfront with this. Same with requiring a vaccine card to enter the stadium.

    As far as being kicked out into the streets, I would assume the freshmen would just go home. Or figure it out like an adult. You act like an 18 year old is a 7 year old.

    The consequences for not getting the vaccine and booster are going to become more and more abrupt as the vaccine keeps kicking ass out there. And I say bring on the restrictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    We did last year. I would imagine the numbers are way too high to do it this year.

    The vaccine is free. It has been available since damn April. 5.04 billion doses have been put into arms. 5.04 billion over the course of 9 months.

    Get the shot. Or don?t. Totally up to you. You get COVID and you will be asked to leave class and campus. It will impact your grades. I feel like everyone has been upfront with this. Same with requiring a vaccine card to enter the stadium.

    As far as being kicked out into the streets, I would assume the freshmen would just go home. Or figure it out like an adult. You act like an 18 year old is a 7 year old.

    The consequences for not getting the vaccine and booster are going to become more and more abrupt as the vaccine keeps kicking ass out there. And I say bring on the restrictions.
    Why should there be penalties for students who test positive when plenty of people who are getting covid have had the vaccine. Most of the people that I know who have gotten it lately are actually vaccinated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    Why should there be penalties for students who test positive when plenty of people who are getting covid have had the vaccine. Most of the people that I know who have gotten it lately are actually vaccinated.
    True.

    That 95% is BS.

    But....most (not all) hospitalizations are the un vaxxed. Most deaths are the unvaxxed. So....get the vaccination.

    I think the Lord helped plan the Afgan pull out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgoneyall View Post
    True.

    That 95% is BS.

    But....most (not all) hospitalizations are the un vaxxed. Most deaths are the unvaxxed. So....get the vaccination.

    I think the Lord helped plan the Afgan pull out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    And I say bring on the restrictions.
    THe policy........................Regardless if you are vax v unvax, if you get covid, you are removed from class, residents and must quarantine. However, policy states to notify your instructors and it is an excused absence. I am sure the instructors will help the student keep up.

    Also, vaccinated are spreading and getting covid. I personally know a teacher that was fully vaccinated and got a bad case first week of school. IF you want to come down on people and judge them for their choice to be vaccinated, prepare to be judged when you pick up covid at a football game.
    Last edited by Maroonthirteen; 08-26-2021 at 06:20 AM.

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    So how are the vaccine papers to access stadiums supposed to do something to stop the spread of Covid when they allow people with one vaccine shot, even if administered just before walking into the stadium, to go in? Will they still allow tailgating? If so, do you have to show vaccine status for that? What about the dog walk?

    Its ok to be pro vaccine but at the same time question the protocols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    We did last year. I would imagine the numbers are way too high to do it this year.

    The vaccine is free. It has been available since damn April. 5.04 billion doses have been put into arms. 5.04 billion over the course of 9 months.

    Get the shot. Or don?t. Totally up to you. You get COVID and you will be asked to leave class and campus. It will impact your grades. I feel like everyone has been upfront with this. Same with requiring a vaccine card to enter the stadium.

    As far as being kicked out into the streets, I would assume the freshmen would just go home. Or figure it out like an adult. You act like an 18 year old is a 7 year old.

    The consequences for not getting the vaccine and booster are going to become more and more abrupt as the vaccine keeps kicking ass out there. And I say bring on the restrictions.

    This is Nazi tactics! Do this, do that or we will load you on a rail car and ship you off to Auschwitz! I am not anti-vaccine as I have taken the vaccine - both me and my wife and all of our grown children! It was a choice that was right for us! What I am against is the government forcing citizens to do something that may be against their beliefs. Sine both vaccinated and unvaccinated can still get the damn virus and pass it on to others, the ONLY advantage of getting the vaccine is - from what I have read, is the severity of the illness if you get it. So, in summary, the vaccine does NOTHING to prevent the spread of the virus, it only limits the severity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    This is Nazi tactics! Do this, do that or we will load you on a rail car and ship you off to Auschwitz! I am not anti-vaccine as I have taken the vaccine - both me and my wife and all of our grown children! It was a choice that was right for us! What I am against is the government forcing citizens to do something that may be against their beliefs. Sine both vaccinated and unvaccinated can still get the damn virus and pass it on to others, the ONLY advantage of getting the vaccine is - from what I have read, is the severity of the illness if you get it. So, in summary, the vaccine does NOTHING to prevent the spread of the virus, it only limits the severity.
    I agree with most of this however, I had to get vaccines to attend MSU. Not sure how this is different if they require students to get the vaccine to attend. If you can't get the vaccine then they should be able to have a medical document explaining why they can't take it. Every person on this message board has had vaccines at some point in their life if they attended a public educational institution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I agree with most of this however, I had to get vaccines to attend MSU. Not sure how this is different if they require students to get the vaccine to attend. If you can't get the vaccine then they should be able to have a medical document explaining why they can't take it. Every person on this message board has had vaccines at some point in their life if they attended a public educational institution.
    I think the main difference between now and in years past is this COVID vaccine does not prevent you from becoming infected and in years past the vaccines we took - polio and others did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    I think the main difference between now and in years past is this COVID vaccine does not prevent you from becoming infected and in years past the vaccines we took - polio and others did.
    Different viruses different long term vaccine responses. This is what we have. And with 5,040,000,000 doses given, there shouldn't be any hold outs due to questions at this point.
    There are other vaccines in the work that are taken through nose sprays that will keep you from contracting the virus. Until they are available, this is best we have and its the best we are going to have.
    Either way, it is clear the vaccine keeps you out of the hospital. Why chance the dang high cost of going into an American Hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I agree with most of this however, I had to get vaccines to attend MSU. Not sure how this is different if they require students to get the vaccine to attend. If you can't get the vaccine then they should be able to have a medical document explaining why they can't take it. Every person on this message board has had vaccines at some point in their life if they attended a public educational institution.
    It's only different in how long the vaccines have been out before becoming mandatory versus the severity of the disease. While MRNA tech isn't new, to my knowledge there haven't been any vaccines with it so people are understandably concerned about whether there might be long term, unknown effects.

    For the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, I don't think it is different, but I'm not positive. The only new vaccine I can remember recently was the one for HPV. And there was a stink about making that mandatory, which some states did I think pretty quickly (I know it hurt Rick Perry in his campaign; his argument was that making it mandatory ensured it was covered by insurance, and then there was an opt out procedure). I'm not sure how long it has typically taken to get from the development of a vaccine to it being made mandatory, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is usually done within a couple of years, so with not much better long term data than we have now. And we basically have a new flu vaccine every year, and I'm not sure the Johnson and Johnson is really different. Probably a little more likely to have adverse effects from the stress of your immune response, so probably more dangerous, but once you get through that initial response (which we do have data on, if imperfect), I don't know why there would be any particular concern about long term, unknown effects that wouldn't be there for say the flu vaccine. Not saying their isn't, but it's basically the same technology as far as I understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    It's only different in how long the vaccines have been out before becoming mandatory versus the severity of the disease. While MRNA tech isn't new, to my knowledge there haven't been any vaccines with it so people are understandably concerned about whether there might be long term, unknown effects.

    For the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, I don't think it is different, but I'm not positive. The only new vaccine I can remember recently was the one for HPV. And there was a stink about making that mandatory, which some states did I think pretty quickly (I know it hurt Rick Perry in his campaign; his argument was that making it mandatory ensured it was covered by insurance, and then there was an opt out procedure). I'm not sure how long it has typically taken to get from the development of a vaccine to it being made mandatory, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is usually done within a couple of years, so with not much better long term data than we have now. And we basically have a new flu vaccine every year, and I'm not sure the Johnson and Johnson is really different. Probably a little more likely to have adverse effects from the stress of your immune response, so probably more dangerous, but once you get through that initial response (which we do have data on, if imperfect), I don't know why there would be any particular concern about long term, unknown effects that wouldn't be there for say the flu vaccine. Not saying their isn't, but it's basically the same technology as far as I understand it.
    Just pointing out that a guy named Johnson is commenting on the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Break off some of that pharma money for us an Oline specific NIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    It's only different in how long the vaccines have been out before becoming mandatory versus the severity of the disease. While MRNA tech isn't new, to my knowledge there haven't been any vaccines with it so people are understandably concerned about whether there might be long term, unknown effects.

    For the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, I don't think it is different, but I'm not positive. The only new vaccine I can remember recently was the one for HPV. And there was a stink about making that mandatory, which some states did I think pretty quickly (I know it hurt Rick Perry in his campaign; his argument was that making it mandatory ensured it was covered by insurance, and then there was an opt out procedure). I'm not sure how long it has typically taken to get from the development of a vaccine to it being made mandatory, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is usually done within a couple of years, so with not much better long term data than we have now. And we basically have a new flu vaccine every year, and I'm not sure the Johnson and Johnson is really different. Probably a little more likely to have adverse effects from the stress of your immune response, so probably more dangerous, but once you get through that initial response (which we do have data on, if imperfect), I don't know why there would be any particular concern about long term, unknown effects that wouldn't be there for say the flu vaccine. Not saying their isn't, but it's basically the same technology as far as I understand it.
    How many people in the US died Of Measles in 1962, before the Measles vaccine? Mumps? Rubella? What is the effectiveness of that vaccine? How many shots/boosters does it take?

    How many died of Hepatitis pre vaccine? Diphtheria? Chickenpox?

    Now tell me how being mandatory vs "severity of the disease"....

    Link for those too lazy to look it up.
    https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
    In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.

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