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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    NO, everybody knows and has for many years that the best players get money/gifts and the larger schools have deeper pockets. The thing is it used to be under the table, a taboo - against the rules, and for the average fan colleges had somewhat of a semblance of having STUDENT/ATHLETES (Student being first) or amateur athletes. That is not true anymore, they are now professionals whether they like it or not. They are getting payed, in the open like pro athletes. It takes some of the mystique and pageantry and just pure love of competition away from the game that used to be there. Now it is ALL about money and the original reason for attending college, an education, is gone.

    This is some back row Baptist BS right here. “It’s all right if I do it and no one finds out”. Like going into the liquor store with a hoodie on so no one can recognize you. The school is not paying them. They are not professionals. The Olympians have been able to get paid since the beginning of time through endorsements and they were strictly amateur for many years. The biggest difference now is a college kid isn’t going to get his life ruined and eligibility taken when someone finds out he signed autographs and got paid for it. Whoopty doo. Telling a grown ass man or woman they can’t make money off of their own name is some communistic BS.
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    Anyone know if the University ever moved forward with co-branding or anything to allow athletes to appear in MSU gear? I know TA wasn't allowed to with his baseball cards and shirts this summer.

    Texas just signed a deal with The Brandr Group which allows all players to to earn money with NLI but also the schools TM and logos.
    Thus a longhorn fan can now buy a Jersey with the players name on it.
    But MORE so, it allows a group of players to band together and be more valuable.

    Meanwhile Bama is allowing players to co-brand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    NO, everybody knows and has for many years that the best players get money/gifts and the larger schools have deeper pockets. The thing is it used to be under the table, a taboo - against the rules, and for the average fan colleges had somewhat of a semblance of having STUDENT/ATHLETES (Student being first) or amateur athletes. That is not true anymore, they are now professionals whether they like it or not. They are getting payed, in the open like pro athletes. It takes some of the mystique and pageantry and just pure love of competition away from the game that used to be there. Now it is ALL about money and the original reason for attending college, an education, is gone.
    But they are not paid athletes. They are athletes that now have the right to make money off of their fame and ability.

    What they do have now is equal rights to every other 18-22 year old person in this country. They have the right to make money and transfer like any other student in the country. Which is fine by me.


    If you/NCAA were so concerned about it, why didn't the NCAA set a payment schedule to each athlete in school? Why do they have age requirements on declaring for the NFL draft? Why do they have eligibility requirements on the number of years someone can play on the team? If you want money out of the game, then take money out of the game. No more billion dollar contracts with TV. No more allowed advertising dollars for coaches and jumbotrons, etc.

    There were about 20 ways they could have fixed this, but they decided to give the players equal rights to every other student on campus. No other student has to be an amateur? Every other student can have a job or make any other money they want as long as it is legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    Again. if you don't like it. find a new hobby. It's legal. it's done. College sports are big business and the athletes DESERVE to get a little cash out of it considering how much the NCAA and schools make on them each year.
    absolutely. Like I said, if the university wanted to be on the forefront of this, every student athlete that is officially added to the team should get a cut of the 50 million dollar check they just got. 10 million divided by 300 = $33,333 per student athlete yearly.
    Who else is going to have that much of a deal?
    You may even be able to add to that funds given to the university.
    Either way, our student athletes give up their bodies for our enjoyment. The school keeps 40 and the athletes get 10. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

    And if you want to argue this doesn't meet the requriements of the NIL, why does the university get the right to use the student's likeness? Schollies pay for the on the field production. The 10 million bump pay for the right to use them in promotional stuff.
    Easily explained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    But they are not paid athletes. They are athletes that now have the right to make money off of their fame and ability.

    What they do have now is equal rights to every other 18-22 year old person in this country. They have the right to make money and transfer like any other student in the country. Which is fine by me.


    If you/NCAA were so concerned about it, why didn't the NCAA set a payment schedule to each athlete in school? Why do they have age requirements on declaring for the NFL draft? Why do they have eligibility requirements on the number of years someone can play on the team? If you want money out of the game, then take money out of the game. No more billion dollar contracts with TV. No more allowed advertising dollars for coaches and jumbotrons, etc.

    There were about 20 ways they could have fixed this, but they decided to give the players equal rights to every other student on campus. No other student has to be an amateur? Every other student can have a job or make any other money they want as long as it is legal.

    Oh but they are! The university may not be paying them directly, other than a free education and other perks, but they are now getting openly paid by someone for what they do - play sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    This is some back row Baptist BS right here. “It’s all right if I do it and no one finds out”. Like going into the liquor store with a hoodie on so no one can recognize you. The school is not paying them. They are not professionals. The Olympians have been able to get paid since the beginning of time through endorsements and they were strictly amateur for many years. The biggest difference now is a college kid isn’t going to get his life ruined and eligibility taken when someone finds out he signed autographs and got paid for it. Whoopty doo. Telling a grown ass man or woman they can’t make money off of their own name is some communistic BS.
    Where does this madness stop - high school, middle school, pee wee or little league! Why can't they get paid or have a trust fund set up for them until they reach age. Their name and likeness is also being used. If you have no standard, you will fall for every new doctrine that comes along.

    NIL only became an issue as the size of stadiums increased to professional size and television revenue grew so large. It is the amount of money involved that is the driving force. Everybody wants a piece of the pie. Follow the money and greed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    Where does this madness stop - high school, middle school, pee wee or little league! Why can't they get paid or have a trust fund set up for them until they reach age. Their name and likeness is also being used. If you have no standard, you will fall for every new doctrine that comes along.

    NIL only became an issue as the size of stadiums increased to professional size and television revenue grew so large. It is the amount of money involved that is the driving force. Everybody wants a piece of the pie. Follow the money and greed!
    Oh no! College athletes are taking advantage of capitalism ! What will we do?!?!?! No one should ever be hindered from making money off of their name. There are 8 year old you tube sensations making millions of dollars. So what? If a person can make money off of their name that is absolutely none of your business.

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    If a player can make money themselves off their likeness.... more power to them.

    Suggesting the school should pay players because the school makes millions.... Well the school makes millions because of their brand and the sec brand. So if you are sharing the schools money, you need to cut a check to all those former athletes that built the brand. I don't even know the QBs name at Alabama but someone said he would earn $1MM. That's all the Alabama brand.

    Also if a player is going to get paid just because the athletic dept made money. The general population student needs to make money from the MSU foundation. You know... those kids that actually pay for their education.

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    MSU received 120.7 million in gifts last year alone. When are all students going to receive their cut of this money!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    MSU received 120.7 million in gifts last year alone. When are all students going to receive their cut of this money!?!?!
    Oh noooooo. The students have to pay. Only special people get money. but wait their isn't a University without students and alumni is there so maybe they should get a cut.

    Take away students and alumni and all you have left is a pro team that no one would care about or players that would only make about 30K a year. People act like the players are getting nothing from the University. How did all those facilities get there? Who pays for that. Maybe they should pay rent to work out there or play there. There are two sides to this.

    Yall think about that for a minute. If sports were not there, good schools would still exist because those are necessary things in society. Sports is a luxury of developed countries. Afghanistan doesn't have college or pro sports. Other countries that do are a shadow of what we have but they have Universities of higher learning.

    This is all fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    Again. if you don't like it. find a new hobby. It's legal. it's done. College sports are big business and the athletes DESERVE to get a little cash out of it considering how much the NCAA and schools make on them each year.
    Except it's not little. College kids can work for extra cash while football players don't have the time. Compensate them based on that. This NIS shit is weird to say the least. College athletes were not threatening a strike.

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    The problem with talking about all this money is that money goes to fund the soccer and volleyball teams that no one watches. If we are talking about giving football players a cut then we better do away with Title IX. Football and Men's basketball pretty much pay for every other sport at most universities. Baseball for us makes money but most schools don't.

    I have no problem with players signing NIL deals but it is going to put the discrepancy out in the open. Now you will know up front why Bama will sign the #1 recruiting class every year unless Texas outbids them. It is no secret that Ole Missus buys players out from under us all the time. Now we will know exactly how much it cost them. We can maybe even drive up the price on them on certain players to make them waste more money.

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