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    Why can't MSU fans band together for something like this...

    NLI - Surly "Burnt Ends" - Texas fans coming up with a way to sponsor the TE's
    Goal is to crowdsource $70k and divide it around the Tight Ends room. (10k each)
    Just got it approved by UT compliance. and had it 1/3 of the way funded before APPROVAL

    67/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr

    22/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr

    17/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr

    Why can't we be this organized...

    https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/ind...s-nil-program/
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    If we don't soon we'll be even more behind. Don't think the rebels aren't coming up with something as we speak

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    Do I think we can do 7 players? Nope. But I feel confident we could put together enough for a couple of players.

    What those guys are doing are giving every te on the roster at the start of the season 10k. It's already guaranteed and written up in the documents the athletes have signed.

    Think about how much that could help in recruiting. If you sign with Texas or transfer in. You are gonna get 10k guaranteed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    Do I think we can do 7 players? Nope. But I feel confident we could put together enough for a couple of players.

    What those guys are doing are giving every te on the roster at the start of the season 10k. It's already guaranteed and written up in the documents the athletes have signed.

    Think about how much that could help in recruiting. If you sign with Texas or transfer in. You are gonna get 10k guaranteed.
    We're going to have to put up more than just a couple of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post


    Think about how much that could help in recruiting. If you sign with Texas or transfer in. You are gonna get 10k guaranteed.
    Wow! This is crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Wow! This is crazy.
    For an old guy like me, this is insane! College sports is very very rapidly losing its appeal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    For an old guy like me, this is insane! College sports is very very rapidly losing its appeal!
    It's really messed up. I mean the whole point is "look at how much money the universities are making off these players" but it's not the universities that are going to pay them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    For an old guy like me, this is insane! College sports is very very rapidly losing its appeal!
    So you are saying. It's losing it's appeal. Because they are doing what every casual fan has always wanted to do.... be more invested.
    It's hard for me to believe we couldn't find 350 people (that's an example Surly is using) to pledge either $120, $300, or $600 or more to make MSU a better target for recruits once they sign with us.
    Let's say we went with all the CB's on the roster, which currently shows 8. could raise somewhere between 8-10k for each player. walk on or not. I'm not sure what we give our players in stipend but that's what Surly is using to say we will double it.
    And all they are asking the players to do in return is 1 30 minute interview after a game per year, 1 hour AMA on a private forum (only for people who donated) and then a 1 hour dinner for the top level donors (600 or more).


    and this is just the start...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    So you are saying. It's losing it's appeal. Because they are doing what every casual fan has always wanted to do.... be more invested.
    It's hard for me to believe we couldn't find 350 people (that's an example Surly is using) to pledge either $120, $300, or $600 or more to make MSU a better target for recruits once they sign with us.
    Let's say we went with all the CB's on the roster, which currently shows 8. could raise somewhere between 8-10k for each player. walk on or not. I'm not sure what we give our players in stipend but that's what Surly is using to say we will double it.
    And all they are asking the players to do in return is 1 30 minute interview after a game per year, 1 hour AMA on a private forum (only for people who donated) and then a 1 hour dinner for the top level donors (600 or more).


    and this is just the start...
    I guess I disagree with your premise that every casual fan has always wanted to be more invested. I think this whole thing is fcked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    So you are saying. It's losing it's appeal. Because they are doing what every casual fan has always wanted to do.... be more invested.
    It's hard for me to believe we couldn't find 350 people (that's an example Surly is using) to pledge either $120, $300, or $600 or more to make MSU a better target for recruits once they sign with us.
    Let's say we went with all the CB's on the roster, which currently shows 8. could raise somewhere between 8-10k for each player. walk on or not. I'm not sure what we give our players in stipend but that's what Surly is using to say we will double it.
    And all they are asking the players to do in return is 1 30 minute interview after a game per year, 1 hour AMA on a private forum (only for people who donated) and then a 1 hour dinner for the top level donors (600 or more).


    and this is just the start...

    I think you are overlooking the original intent of going to college in the first place. It is to get an EDUCATION! In days past, sports was considered Extra-Curricular and you had to qualify academically in order to participate in Extra-Curricular activities of any kind!

    Now college has turned into the minor leagues! Any thug/wayward kid (and we can get into a long discussion on this) can get into college as long as he/she is a top rated athlete.

    I propose college return to its original intent and the sports industry create a true minor league, independent of colleges, where all of the 4/5 star prospects can go and make money right out of high-school.

    I would rather watch and support 1/2/3 star athletes who are getting a "TRUE" college education than watch/ support the destruction of amateur athletics as we are experiencing today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    So you are saying. It's losing it's appeal. Because they are doing what every casual fan has always wanted to do.... be more invested.
    It's hard for me to believe we couldn't find 350 people (that's an example Surly is using) to pledge either $120, $300, or $600 or more to make MSU a better target for recruits once they sign with us.
    Let's say we went with all the CB's on the roster, which currently shows 8. could raise somewhere between 8-10k for each player. walk on or not. I'm not sure what we give our players in stipend but that's what Surly is using to say we will double it.
    And all they are asking the players to do in return is 1 30 minute interview after a game per year, 1 hour AMA on a private forum (only for people who donated) and then a 1 hour dinner for the top level donors (600 or more).


    and this is just the start...
    You mean every college fan wants to give more of their hard earned money to entitled athletes who don't have to pay for their own school while the slave to pay for their own kids college?

    Who are these people you speak of, I don't know any like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    For an old guy like me, this is insane! College sports is very very rapidly losing its appeal!
    I agree. If it keeps going, I'll be jumping off at some point just like I have with pro sports.

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    Honestly, we might have a better shot at getting Juco or transfer players and try to get a few key players. I don't think we have the money or just drive from alumni to wade into this pool. We have a better shot at building a dynasty in baseball than competing in football.

    Edited to add: What I mean is be a high roller in getting Juco or transfer players and then spend the money on QBs, Oline, and DEs. We might can compete for a couple of players but a whole roster like that is going to be more than MSU guys will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    Honestly, we might have a better shot at getting Juco or transfer players and try to get a few key players. I don't think we have the money or just drive from alumni to wade into this pool. We have a better shot at building a dynasty in baseball than competing in football.

    Edited to add: What I mean is be a high roller in getting Juco or transfer players and then spend the money on QBs, Oline, and DEs. We might can compete for a couple of players but a whole roster like that is going to be more than MSU guys will do.
    Come to MSU thru the transfer portal, and you are guaranteed 10K. I can dig that.

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    I don't know about y'all, but when I was in college giving me $10K might as well have been giving me a million dollars. I was just happy seeing triple digits in my account at any given time. And I'm not that old.

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    A general surgeon at University, who is a UT graduate, told me just this weekend that the university reached out in regards to contributing to the NIL fund. Said the new department was created fairly quickly to get ahead of all of this for recruiting purposes.

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    The knock on State fans has mostly been that we are low income, cheap folks that had to take out a second mortgage on our trailer just to get to OMAHA and sleep in a tent.

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    If I pitch in, do I get a refund if said sponsored player.... "opts out" or skips practice for political reasons, etc. ???

    In all seriousness, that's more likely the reason random people don't throw their money at a player trust fund.

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    Not understanding. Cigar Boys and handlers always had to cover their trails to stay clean. Now all they have to do now is write a check out of their personal account. So what's the problem?

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