Our Recruiting Stinks

[ShotgunDawg]

Gonna lose Bryson Hurst to OM on Wed.

At one point we led for Williams, Harris, and Dorsch, and won?t likely get any.

MSU has always gotten its share of instate players, but we?re getting destroyed currently.

A lifeless recruiting department that doesn?t get enough funding or staff. Pretty embarrassing what?s going on.

[HoopsDawg]

I don't follow recruiting this time of the year, but that's rough if true. I will say that at a place like MSU, the head coach has to really care and prioritize recruiting for us to have much success. And that's not Leach.

[Homedawg]

Gonna lose Bryson Hurst to OM on Wed.

At one point we led for Williams, Harris, and Dorsch, and won?t likely get any.

MSU has always gotten its share of instate players, but we?re getting destroyed currently.

A lifeless recruiting department that doesn?t get enough funding or staff. Pretty embarrassing what?s going on.

We could pour a million into more staff and it wouldn't make one ounce of difference. And CML doesn't want anymore anyway says he has more than he's ever had so there's that. We gonna be a 25-35 team. Is what it is. That's our "budget"

[Homedawg]

I don't follow recruiting this time of the year, but that's rough if true. I will say that at a place like MSU, the head coach has to really care and prioritize recruiting for us to have much success. And that's not Leach.

Mullen likes recruiting and works at it way more than leach. All true

[HoopsDawg]

Mullen likes recruiting and works at it way more than leach. All true

Yes, thanks for the preemptive post b/c you know the Mullen posts were coming. Mullen said a million times that recruiting is like shaving, miss one day and you look like a bum. Leach probably talks to recruits 1 day a week at the most.

[TheLostDawg]

Gonna lose Bryson Hurst to OM on Wed.

At one point we led for Williams, Harris, and Dorsch, and won?t likely get any.

MSU has always gotten its share of instate players, but we?re getting destroyed currently.

A lifeless recruiting department that doesn?t get enough funding or staff. Pretty embarrassing what?s going on.

They flipped Clayton as well

[Todd4State]

Dan's problem had more to do with roster management. Which Leach appears to be much better at that than Dan. Give me a Leach ranked 27th class over a Dan class ranked 27th because the Dan class likely had no receivers over 6'0 tall and 2 OL in it.

MSU's problem is we don't prioritize football recruiting enough. At a recruiting department level OR at a booster level. We're way too scared about getting nailed by the NCAA- and with Bracky that's not surprising why they would feel that way.

Add in MSU winning a National Championship in baseball causing Ole Miss boosters to flip out and this is not surprising at all.

[Todd4State]

They flipped Clayton as well

Basically because we refused to not tell the guy the truth. So he's going to go to Ole Miss and play OL anyway. Which is another issue we have.

[BHildreth3]

Do yourself a favor. Stop following recruiting. It took me into my 40's to do this b/c I loved the idea of getting top 10 recruiting classes. My stress level has decreased. It's pathetic. We don't have enough alumni who CARE($) enough to do anything about it. It's frustrating. No doubt about it. I hope we can surprise and win a lot of games, that will help, but seriously, just don't follow recruiting as much as you have and just catch up at the end. it's better that way.

Pretty soon, if we don't start getting 4stars, we're not going to be competing with Ole Miss for players. We'll be competing for players that are considering smaller schools.

[ShotgunDawg]

The is normally where I'd complain that OM is paying players, but, honestly, it feels like they're going uncontested for players in state. Like we're not even trying

[Todd4State]

The is normally where I'd complain that OM is paying players, but, honestly, it feels like they're going uncontested for players in state. Like we're not even trying

If we're leading for a player and then we suddenly lose them- that's not a coaching issue. Because our coaches did their job in the first place selling the player on MSU for us to lead in the first place. Then it comes down to money at that point.

[Dannyripms]

Id like to hire some more analyst for recruiting but losing these guys aren't the coaching staff's fault. They've been calling and trying to get them in. I have a feeling after we surprise some folks this year things may change for the better. But we will never be a top 10 recruiter unless we play the game all the way like some schools do.

[bulldawg28]

Shotgun, you do this EVERY YEAR!

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We get what we pay for in recruiting. Lowest recruiting budget in Power 5. Thanks LT, I mean Cohen.

[MetEdDawg]

We get what we pay for in recruiting. Lowest recruiting budget in Power 5. Thanks LT, I mean Cohen.

Explain why this is a Cohen issue? Our revenue is shit. We are a small school with a low giving donor base compared to the teams we compete against.

Give more money = spend more money.

This is easy math, but for a long long time a large portion of our fan base refuse to understand that we just don't have nearly as many people as other programs that are willing to consistently give enough money to make a difference. Sure we have folks that will step up to the plate for a capital campaign.

But our base doesn't give enough consistently year over year. Last I checked we had like 12,000 in the Bulldog Club. Not enough. And I hang around the middle of the pack and don't give a lot, but I'm working towards giving more. We need a lot more donors giving a lot more money. That's how you change a program.

[ShotgunDawg]

Explain why this is a Cohen issue? Our revenue is shit. We are a small school with a low giving donor base compared to the teams we compete against.

Give more money = spend more money.

This is easy math, but for a long long time a large portion of our fan base refuse to understand that we just don't have nearly as many people as other programs that are willing to consistently give enough money to make a difference. Sure we have folks that will step up to the plate for a capital campaign.

But our base doesn't give enough consistently year over year. Last I checked we had like 12,000 in the Bulldog Club. Not enough. And I hang around the middle of the pack and don't give a lot, but I'm working towards giving more. We need a lot more donors giving a lot more money. That's how you change a program.

Has anyone ever asked you to give money to build up the recruiting department?

You'd think we run targeted fund raising campaigns but nope, I guess fans are supposed to have an intuition about what we need budget wise.

I bet if the AD asked for money to improve this area, he get plenty of money.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

How many coaches on the staff have a history in Mississippi? Tony Hughes and who else?

[ShotgunDawg]

How many coaches on the staff have a history in Mississippi? Tony Hughes and who else?

I'm not sure that matters anymore with all the recruiting sites. The landscape of recruiting has shifted away from local coaches having much advantage.

[ShotgunDawg]

Stone Blanton has been basically a lock for 3 months and we can't even get him to commit, even if to just get some momentum.

If I didn't know better, I'd think out school has completely de-emphasized football. It seriously appears as though we aren't trying.

[msstate7]

Stone Blanton has been basically a lock for 3 months and we can't even get him to commit, even if to just get some momentum.

If I didn't know better, I'd think out school has completely de-emphasized football. It seriously appears as though we aren't trying.

I don't think leach thinks he needs top talent to run his offense. This may or may not be true, but we won't stop anyone if we load up our defense with a buncha 84-86 rated guys