-
Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
What is absolutely crazy about last year's stats is that we are started with 623 yards on 60 attempts against LSU last year. That is how bad the offense was the rest of the season, except Mizzou.
Good point.
Although that game didn't affect rogers' stats
-
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Good point.
Although that game didn't affect rogers' stats
Oh - missed that part, lol
-
Chance isn't beating out Will.
-
I don?t care who the QB is. Just win
-
Some of you guys seem to forget that Rogers was a true freshman last year. And working with a brand new offense with the entire team. Without a spring camp or summer workouts. I have my doubts about our scheme but there is no doubt that kid has ability to be special. I would love for somebody to name a better quarterback for Mississippi State as a true freshman running a totally new scheme. Heck he took the job from a supposed "gunslinger" in the pac 10.
Last edited by Cowbell; 08-17-2021 at 11:19 AM.
-
The most ACCURATE will win the job. This offense requires strong athletic receivers and running backs who can break that solo tackle and make plays in space. Doesn?t matter if the ball is thrown 3 yards behind scrimmage line or 10 yards down field, ML wants escape artists catching a well thrown ball leading the receivers into open range. If Rogers is not accurate he will not be the starter is another guy is more accurate. If he is accurate, he should be the starter.
-
Originally Posted by
Cowbell
Some of you guys seem to forget that Rogers was a true freshman last year. And working with a brand new offense with the entire team. I have my doubts about our scheme but there is no doubt that kid has ability to be special. I would love for somebody to name a better quarterback for Mississippi State as a true freshman running a totally new scheme.
Madkin in 1998 was basically equal.
Madkin passer rating: 122.1
Rogers passer rating: 123.5
-
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Madkin in 1998 was basically equal.
Madkin passer rating: 122.1
Rogers passer rating: 123.5
Did Madkin have to miss summer workouts and spring training? And take over an offense that was completely figured out by opposing DCs? Who had the better Oline. If you are gonna make an argument you got to do better 7. I expect better out of you lol
-
Originally Posted by
Cowbell
Did Madkin have to miss summer workouts and spring training? And take over an offense that was completely figured out by opposing DCs? Who had the better Oline. If you are gonna make an argument you got to do better 7. I expect better out of you lol
Madkin led us to Atlanta as a true freshman. He made some huge plays to beat ark.
I just don't think will is anything more than a place holder till we get a difference maker. Will isn't bad, and he isn't good... just an avg qb. We won't win with an avg QB in this system
-
It doesn't matter who is our quarterback on day 1. They better be our version of Patrick Mahommes. That is all that matters. Winning football games and looking totally bad ass in every way a QB can while doing it.
I want a buzz around our program. I want our QB to be the obvious Heisman frontrunner from week 1-15. I want him to throw for 6000 yards and run for 1500. I want 100 total touchdowns scored by the QB.
Reasonable, no. But I don't have to be reasonable. I want perfection. I want everyone to be like.....why didn't we get this kid? Why didn't we see this coming?
We could put out there a 300 lb 5'-2" QB, as long as he is a baller that makes the easy plays and the spectacular plays 97% of the time. I don't care. I want a winner.
-
I dont see how you can make such a bold proclomation with such a small sample size msstate7.
-
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Madkin led us to Atlanta as a true freshman. He made some huge plays to beat ark.
I just don't think will is anything more than a place holder till we get a difference maker. Will isn't bad, and he isn't good... just an avg qb. We won't win with an avg QB in this system
So you are saying that as a junior next year he will be no better than average? As you just compared him to one of the best QBs to ever play here?
-
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Madkin led us to Atlanta as a true freshman. He made some huge plays to beat ark.
I just don't think will is anything more than a place holder till we get a difference maker. Will isn't bad, and he isn't good... just an avg qb. We won't win with an avg QB in this system
That is correct. So far I haven't seen him as a difference maker. He didn't show it last year, but that wasn't really his fault. Lots of stuff stacked against him. But from what I have seen this spring and now from what I am hearing from the first scrimmage, he is having issues running our offense against our own team. We need a difference maker. Will may not be that guy.
He will have an opportunity to serve us all a shit burger here in a few weeks, and I hope he does. But we are avoiding the reality based on the evidence we know. He may not be the answer.
-
Originally Posted by
Cowbell
So you are saying that as a junior next year he will be no better than average? As you just compared him to one of the best QBs to ever play here?
The best QB that never won anything. Doesn't say much.
Trevor Lawrence, Tua, Cam Newton, Patrick Mahommes, Johnny Football, Dak, etc.
That is who we should be comparing him to. Every other QB is a bunch of losers that fell short of our ultimate goals.
We need to stop comparing him to our best, and start comparing our players to the best nationwide. Cause that is what it is going to take to compete.
-
Originally Posted by
dawgman15
I dont see how you can make such a bold proclomation with such a small sample size msstate7.
Obviously it's just a guess, and I could be totally wrong. I just see a guy with avg (or below) arm strength and avg (or below) athleticism. This can be overcome by really good, quick decision making and outstanding accuracy. Maybe he has this ability.
I wanna see a guy that make a team defend the whole field and make a pass rusher miss.
-
Originally Posted by
Cowbell
So you are saying that as a junior next year he will be no better than average? As you just compared him to one of the best QBs to ever play here?
I will be pretty shocked if he's starting as a junior. If he is, we missed on Sawyer imo
-
No offense, I love Dak. We never won anything significant with him either with your same thought process
-
Originally Posted by
dawgman15
No offense, I love Dak. We never won anything significant with him either with your same thought process
Dak choked in the Bama game big time. Will will never sniff taking us into Bama as #1
-
Until we can put an O-Line that can block better these are going to continue being dreams
-
Some of you take criticism of will Rogers way too personal.
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.
Reply With Quote
