Simon Biles hiding behind mental health

[Irondawg]

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/31897392

Has to be an injury and she didn?t want to aggrevate it before going into the individual events is my guess. Which is fine but don?t make up a lame excuse when everyone knows you tweaked and ankle.

You don?t train endlessly for the Olympics and then just decide ?I don?t feel like it? on competition day. Especially when you are the best person on the team. Just says I was a little banged up and thought that steeping back gave the team the best chance to win and that it?s personally disappointing to not get to compete but unneeded to put the team first. That?s what you would have heard 10 years ago.

This is why I?m having trouble getting into the Olympics - too many athletes have soured me lately by their attitudes.

[Maverick91]

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/31897392

Has to be an injury and she didn?t want to aggrevate it before going into the individual events is my guess. Which is fine but don?t make up a lame excuse when everyone knows you tweaked and ankle.

You don?t train endlessly for the Olympics and then just decide ?I don?t feel like it? on competition day. Especially when you are the best person on the team. Just says I was a little banged up and thought that steeping back gave the team the best chance to win and that it?s personally disappointing to not get to compete but unneeded to put the team first. That?s what you would have heard 10 years ago.

This is why I?m having trouble getting into the Olympics - too many athletes have soured me lately by their attitudes.

Are you asking for personal responsibility? novel idea.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It is 100% up to her. You have no idea what she is going through mentally or physically. That is why we have alternates to compete. What is the issue here?

Edited to add, she is the best that has ever competed in that sport. If she wants to save her last few tumbles for her individual event, then who the 17 is any one of us to question her on any decision she makes.

I would love to have a running commentary surrounding every professional decision or action you have ever taken, bud.

[ScoobaDawg]

It is 100% up to her. You have no idea what she is going through mentally or physically. That is why we have alternates to compete. What is the issue here?

Edited to add, she is the best that has ever competed in that sport. If she wants to save her last few tumbles for her individual event, then who the 17 is any one of us to question her on any decision she makes.

I would love to have a running commentary surrounding every professional decision or action you have ever taken, bud.

Exactly.... his commentary is a true keyboard warrior.
Let's not forget all the shit she's been thru over the past 5 years since rio.
I hope like hell she shines and takes gold in everything individual.

[BiscuitEater]

It is 100% up to her. You have no idea what she is going through mentally or physically. That is why we have alternates to compete.

As team captain, why did she put herself in the 'team' competition, only to withdraw due to 'mental issues' (her words) if there were 'alternates' that wee willing to compete?

[Lord McBuckethead]

As team captain, why did she put herself in the 'team' competition, only to withdraw due to 'mental issues' (her words) if there were 'alternates' that wee willing to compete?

They had/have an alternate.

[BiscuitEater]

They had/have an alternate.

Okay, But, you didn't answer the question ...

As team captain, why did she put herself in the 'team' competition, only to withdraw due to 'mental issues' (her words) if there were 'alternates' that were willing to compete?

[BB30]

Okay, But, you didn't answer the question ...

As team captain, why did she put herself in the 'team' competition, only to withdraw due to 'mental issues' (her words) if there were 'alternates' that were willing to compete?

You won't get an answer because he wants a "gotcha" moment so bad. This all would have been a non issue had they just come out and stated what it was at the presser. He also won't answer why this is different from a male athlete doing the same thing the night before a big game and how he would respond.

He will call it a whataboutism because he knows he sets different standards for different demographics. If it fits his liberal worldview he will take one stance and if it pushes against that worldview he will deflect with "whataboutism" and or just call you a racist or a bigot. It is a win win for him in his mind.

Facts mean nothing unless they are slanted a certain left leaning way. If the facts back a right leaning way we all of the sudden no longer have to "follow the science" etc.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Okay, But, you didn't answer the question ...

As team captain, why did she put herself in the 'team' competition, only to withdraw due to 'mental issues' (her words) if there were 'alternates' that were willing to compete?

Because she already qualified and then the issue started. Seems pretty straight forward.

[ScoobaDawg]

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/31897392

Has to be an injury and she didn?t want to aggrevate it before going into the individual events is my guess. Which is fine but don?t make up a lame excuse when everyone knows you tweaked and ankle.

You don?t train endlessly for the Olympics and then just decide ?I don?t feel like it? on competition day. Especially when you are the best person on the team. Just says I was a little banged up and thought that steeping back gave the team the best chance to win and that it?s personally disappointing to not get to compete but unneeded to put the team first. That?s what you would have heard 10 years ago.

This is why I?m having trouble getting into the Olympics - too many athletes have soured me lately by their attitudes.

WOW... so you are in Her head and know what's going on?
Way to presume things.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Melt.

[FISHDAWG]

WOW... so you are in Her head and know what's going on?
Way to presume things.

I'm not so sure he's that far off base.... she's not just representing herself and her team .... she's representing the remaining three hundred million of us .... it's time to suck it up - that's what athletes do

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Does gymnastics equate to other sports? Would the same be said if Tom Brady bowed out of super bowl after a bad quarter due to mental things?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Does gymnastics equate to other sports? Would the same be said if Tom Brady bowed out of super bowl after a bad quarter due to mental things?

We can play What-aboutism all you want. Brady (under contract) has nothing to do with Biles. Although, I bet Brady could decide not to play if it wasn't in his best interest because he has the money to cover the ramifications.

[parabrave]

Does gymnastics equate to other sports? Would the same be said if Tom Brady bowed out of super bowl after a bad quarter due to mental things?

Of course it does! Haven't you been watching Ninja Warrior???

[R2Dawg]

Does gymnastics equate to other sports? Would the same be said if Tom Brady bowed out of super bowl after a bad quarter due to mental things?

It would be front page news.

I don't know what is gong on so can't really comment on it with Biles that is. May have nothing to do with it but I did hear about something with judges not judging her the same, don't know what that comment from judges was about.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It would be front page news.

I don't know what is gong on so can't really comment on it with Biles that is. May have nothing to do with it but I did hear about something with judges not judging her the same, don't know what that comment from judges was about.

From what I have heard, her persona was earning higher marks, but also her level of difficulty and execution did as well. Hell, she does a few moves no other woman in history has been even able to achieve in their home gyms versus on the stage of national championships or Olympics.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Yea. I agree. Everyone can call their own shots. But I don?t think it?s unfair to ask questions about the worlds best ever sitting out and hurting her team when it wasn?t a physical injury. Those would certainly be asked of athletes of other sports. I was just asking if it was the same.

[Irondawg]

My point is she?s hurt and pretty much everyone knows it. I don?t mind her bowing out and I think I made that clear in my original post. If she wants to save herself for the individual competition than I?m totally fine with that.

What I didn?t like was the spin.

I think it?s total crap that they wouldn?t let her do her special move. I?m a fan of hers but I didn?t like the excuse making beyond that and I?m sorry if my original post came across as overly aggressive.

[Hot Rock]

Sweeping stuff under the rug has been the problem. Did you want here to Lie?

Reports of sexual abuse were ignored by the US Olympic Gymnastic for years and years. It was really bad and Simone was one of the victims. Her giving full disclosure about here issues is refreshing. Someone telling the truth, I can't imagine that one would get admonished for doing so.

I have no doubt she will represent this country the best she can and I am proud she is representing these United States and not someone too scared to step up and say what is wrong.