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    Cleveland Indians now the Cleveland Guardians

    Not a fan of that name personally unless they pick Rocket Racoon as their mascot.

    I was pulling for "Tribe" to keep the heritage but not the potentially offensive moniker.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ians-guardians

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    Goodbye to Chiefs, Braves, Rangers, Cowboys, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman View Post
    Goodbye to Chiefs, Braves, Rangers, Cowboys, etc
    and Patriots and Raiders.

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    I don't even watch MLB or the NFL anymore ... they can all change their names to some type of fish for all I care.... And MLB / NFL are to blame - not me because they sure don't give a damn about offending me
    OXFORD, Miss. (WTVA) - Ole Miss campus police ask students to behave at future baseball games following a recent incident.
    The university said students were reportedly throwing rocks at Georgia baseball players during last weekend's series.

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    49ers too

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    Saints

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    Bunch of snowflakes in this thread.

    The only one's on the chopping block are Cleveland, which had a REALLY racist mascot, Washington, whose name is literally a slur (I don't want to hear you complaining about Ole Miss being the slave owners wife if you don't call this out), and maybe the Braves, but that one might be safe because it isn't inherently negative, but there's a legit concern about using a type of people as a mascot - just like you shouldn't wear a race or culture as a costume for Halloween. It's okay to admit that some stuff created in the past was bad and should be changed. Doesn't take away any joy you had cheering for them in the past and doesn't make you a bad person for having cheered for those teams. You didn't know better and it was a different time.

    Literally none of this will have any negative consequences for you personally, you won't be harmed in any way, and nothing in your life will meaningfully change for the better or worse with this.
    WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING?!?

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    Cowboys killed Indians. They have to go next.

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    I?m fine with idea of ?Indians? or ?Redskins? being considered offensive and you make a good point about Ole Miss.

    But not sure a cartoon mascot should be considered too offensive because they?re supposed to be silly. Notre Dame, Boston Celtics, San Diego Padres all have goofy looking people mascots.

    Like everything else it?s a matter of being reasonable. I just hate that both Washington and Cleveland couldn?t find a way to honor Native American culture in some way and have run away from it because of fear of losing a PR battle.

    Names like the Braves, Chiefs should be considered respectful in my opinion as those words should have a positive association to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    Bunch of snowflakes in this thread.

    The only one's on the chopping block are Cleveland, which had a REALLY racist mascot, Washington, whose name is literally a slur (I don't want to hear you complaining about Ole Miss being the slave owners wife if you don't call this out), and maybe the Braves, but that one might be safe because it isn't inherently negative, but there's a legit concern about using a type of people as a mascot - just like you shouldn't wear a race or culture as a costume for Halloween. It's okay to admit that some stuff created in the past was bad and should be changed. Doesn't take away any joy you had cheering for them in the past and doesn't make you a bad person for having cheered for those teams. You didn't know better and it was a different time.

    Literally none of this will have any negative consequences for you personally, you won't be harmed in any way, and nothing in your life will meaningfully change for the better or worse with this.
    So no Patriots or Raiders or Saints or Cowboys or ..............

    If we are going to bend to political pressure, then let's do it all the way. It's kind of like it's okay to have a movie called "White Men Can't Jump", but it's not okay to have a movie called "Black Men can't do well on the ACT." Let's either do it or not.

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    Braves and chiefs will absolutely be next. They are toast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    Not a fan of that name personally unless they pick Rocket Racoon as their mascot.

    I was pulling for "Tribe" to keep the heritage but not the potentially offensive moniker.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ians-guardians
    95% of people offended by their name were not native american descendants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman View Post
    Goodbye to Chiefs, Braves, Rangers, Cowboys, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    So no Patriots or Raiders or Saints or Cowboys or ..............

    If we are going to bend to political pressure, then let's do it all the way. It's kind of like it's okay to have a movie called "White Men Can't Jump", but it's not okay to have a movie called "Black Men can't do well on the ACT." Let's either do it or not.
    Great Point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    95% of people offended by their name were not native american descendants.
    Bbbbbbbbbbingo!!!! The majority of native Americans did not even really care. This is all about power and conformity into submission. The people behind this are doing it in all aspects of American society. I believe this has been tried before in Europe and China over the last 200 years or so. How did that all end?

    People better wake up. It has nothing to do with being offended or helping out certain groups. It?s simply a method to create Balkanization of groups in this nation, which dissolves the national pride, and then they control everything because we were too stupid enough not to see what they were attempting to do. Divide and conquer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    95% of people offended by their name were not native american descendants.
    100% fact

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    Soon we will erase all reminders of those native savages. They will be nothing but fairy tales. #Woke
    Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman View Post
    Goodbye to Chiefs, Braves, Rangers, Cowboys, etc
    Quite a few Yankees owned slaves also. Despite all the looting, raping and burning on the South during the war, William Tecumsah Sherman stated he wasn't opposed to slavery. Think Yankees name should be banned with the rest of them..
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    Wait til PETA comes after animal mascots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    Wait til PETA comes after animal mascots.
    It's already happening. PETA instagram/twitter said we should refrain from using animal names because it denigrates and furthers animal suffering. There really is no end to this. None. You can find any group that will be offended by any word or name.

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