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    We are lucky to have mike leach

    Period. Regardless of wins and losses(wins will come. He will win as much as Mullen did). But regardless of that. Just to have a character of his kind as our head football coach. I love it.

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    I like leach. I just prefer a different style of football. But if he can win here I’ll be happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    I like leach. I just prefer a different style of football. But if he can win here I’ll be happy with it.
    MSU has played the most boring style of football imaginable for 100 years until we hired Dan Mullen (and even that was not the most exciting brand of football). If we are going to go 8-4 this is a much more enjoyable way to do it IMO.

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    You listen to Out of Bounds.

    We played the same style of football as 99% of the country prior to Leach.

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    I don't particularly care for his politics or his offense. If he wins, I still won't care for it...sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by was21 View Post
    I don't particularly care for his politics or his offense. If he wins, I still won't care for it...sorry.
    I don't get "his politics". He's not really political.

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    I really believe he will win here. just needs his type qb and wide receivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Period. Regardless of wins and losses(wins will come. He will win as much as Mullen did). But regardless of that. Just to have a character of his kind as our head football coach. I love it.
    what about all his cussin' Preach? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    what about all his cussin' Preach? LOL
    I know you are joking but where exactly in the Bible does it say not to cuss? I mean our cuss words didn't even exist in Bible times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    I know you are joking but where exactly in the Bible does it say not to cuss? I mean our cuss words didn't even exist in Bible times.
    There are a lot of verses that speak of pure speech. but the below is kinda specific to swear words.

    James 3:10
    From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    There are a lot of verses that speak of pure speech. but the below is kinda specific to swear words.

    James 3:10
    From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
    Nice answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick91 View Post
    There are a lot of verses that speak of pure speech. but the below is kinda specific to swear words.

    James 3:10
    From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
    Realize "curse" in the context of "bless"- saying "S--t" when you stub your toe isn't the opposite of a blessing. He's saying don't curse, as in "Damn you and your family to hell!". James' point is that as Christians, we shouldn't wish both good and evil on others, but only good. Has nothing to do with generalized cursing.

    Even Jesus literally cursed a fig tree, and called the Pharisees a "brood of Vipers", which sounds a lot like the modern "son of a b-tch", does it not? But it was called for and was the truth, and so wasn't a sin, but was God's will. Words aren't the problem, it's the intent behind them that makes the sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Period. Regardless of wins and losses(wins will come. He will win as much as Mullen did). But regardless of that. Just to have a character of his kind as our head football coach. I love it.
    We'll be dang lucky if he wins as much as *******. I'm afraid those were the glory years of MSU football, if he had just stayed one more year, what could have been...

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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    We'll be dang lucky if he wins as much as *******. I'm afraid those were the glory years of MSU football, if he had just stayed one more year, what could have been...
    Loser Mentality

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    I think IF we can hit on some JUCO offensive linemen and keep Walley for his senior year 2023 could be VERY good for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    We'll be dang lucky if he wins as much as *******. I'm afraid those were the glory years of MSU football, if he had just stayed one more year, what could have been...
    Jackie was better than Dan from 1991-2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Jackie was better than Dan from 1991-2000.
    Dan had a much tougher row to hoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    Dan had a much tougher row to hoe.
    No he didn’t. He had a tougher road to win the west but he had the easiest path to bowl games in the history of MSU athletics. When Jackie coached, USM and that conference was closer to us budget wise and we actually lost recruits to them. Our facilities were dog shit at that time. Mullen didn’t have to deal with that. He also had about 40 more bowl games available to keep the bowl streak alive. Jackie had a team in 97 that competed for the SEC West for half the season, won 7 games in an 11 game schedule, and did not make a bowl game. That would never happen today or when Mullen was here. He rode 4 cupcake nonconference games and a shitty OM/Kentucky team to a 6-6 (or 5-7 in 1 year) bowl game 3 times 9 years. None of those would have been bowl teams in Jackie’s time and obviously his 5-7 09 team would not have been a bowl team either. He would have basically made a bowl game every other year if he coached in Jackie’s era even with all of the advantages he had to get there.
    Last edited by Jarius; 07-21-2021 at 07:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Jackie was better than Dan from 1991-2000.
    Jackie was dominant in that span, as good as ever at MSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Jackie was better than Dan from 1991-2000.
    I love Jackie Wayne, but he didn't have any where near the row to hoe that Mullen did.

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