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Football is over for us and schools like us
The NIL deals have all but assured that. It will only entrench the blue bloods in the top 5 even deeper.
https://tdalabamamag.com/2021/07/20/...il-nick-saban/
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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I agree although a think a few schools that have always been buried but have some big alumni bases may try to ante up and get into this.
As all the NILs become public and people see what these guys are getting paid and especially what they are getting paid for ($10K exclusive interviews for example) the masses are going to wake up to what a farce it is. Then it's going to be interesting to see what schools do in response. I have no idea how it's going to shake out. Maybe it will be status quo but just different, but there is no way anyone with a straight face can believe it's not a recruiting tool.
So what does that mean for non Top 10 programs. Does the going rate for a upper 3 star double or triple or does it stay about where it is? At a certain point I don't know that boosters want to spend all their cash to chase a 8-4 season.
Between this and the transfer portal craziness I think the majority of the schools are going to seek some way to bring things into a balance. I'm very curious to see how that plays out though.
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Originally Posted by
Irondawg
I agree although a think a few schools that have always been buried but have some big alumni bases may try to ante up and get into this.
As all the NILs become public and people see what these guys are getting paid and especially what they are getting paid for ($10K exclusive interviews for example) the masses are going to wake up to what a farce it is. Then it's going to be interesting to see what schools do in response. I have no idea how it's going to shake out. Maybe it will be status quo but just different, but there is no way anyone with a straight face can believe it's not a recruiting tool.
So what does that mean for non Top 10 programs. Does the going rate for a upper 3 star double or triple or does it stay about where it is? At a certain point I don't know that boosters want to spend all their cash to chase a 8-4 season.
Between this and the transfer portal craziness I think the majority of the schools are going to seek some way to bring things into a balance. I'm very curious to see how that plays out though.
This along with the transfer portal is going to kill any chance of us really competing for the SEC title. What happens if you develop someone like Dak and Bama offers $1 or 2 Mil to transfer for their senior year? If poor ole MSU is just getting you a $100k, most people are taking the extra $$$.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
This along with the transfer portal is going to kill any chance of us really competing for the SEC title. What happens if you develop someone like Dak and Bama offers $1 or 2 Mil to transfer for their senior year? If poor ole MSU is just getting you a $100k, most people are taking the extra $$$.
It’s going to be just as bad in basketball as well. It will take longer for it to get to baseball- but that sport is where we are the Blue Blood and can do it to other schools moving forward.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
It?s going to be just as bad in basketball as well. It will take longer for it to get to baseball- but that sport is where we are the Blue Blood and can do it to other schools moving forward.
I'm not sure how true that is over time. In the short term, we are a blue blood in baseball. But it really only takes one committed wealthy donor to move the needle. How many schools in Texas have a few wealthy donors that might decide they want their alma mater to be a powerhouse in baseball. As you saw with us and women's basketball, if you are successful in a sport, your fan base will usually start to care. I don't see us falling off the map in baseball or anything, but we could see a lot of schools pass us by just because they have a larger alumni base and have a few wealthy donors interested enough to get them moving in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
This along with the transfer portal is going to kill any chance of us really competing for the SEC title. What happens if you develop someone like Dak and Bama offers $1 or 2 Mil to transfer for their senior year? If poor ole MSU is just getting you a $100k, most people are taking the extra $$$.
Competing, shit where have you been. We get a 3* bama gets a 5*, If we had a 4* committed they will leave at the next better offer. State has to learn their place and only go after 3*'s. Committed doesn't mean jack shit anymore. State has been in the SEC to provide wins for the big boys, and for that state gets a check. No more No less. Sorry about the rant but I am pissed at the democrats and all they get away with, kind of like the scummy rebel bears. *************
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Originally Posted by
Offshore Dawg
Competing, shit where have you been. We get a 3* bama gets a 5*, If we had a 4* committed they will leave at the next better offer. State has to learn their place and only go after 3*'s. Committed doesn't mean jack shit anymore. State has been in the SEC to provide wins for the big boys, and for that state gets a check. No more No less. Sorry about the rant but I am pissed at the democrats and all they get away with, kind of like the scummy rebel bears. *************
hard to argue against this.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
This along with the transfer portal is going to kill any chance of us really competing for the SEC title. What happens if you develop someone like Dak and Bama offers $1 or 2 Mil to transfer for their senior year? If poor ole MSU is just getting you a $100k, most people are taking the extra $$$.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ick-saban-says
1-2 mil? Think again
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Originally Posted by
TheLostDawg
Nearly 1 million for a kid who has never played a single down of college football. What would the going rate for a 4th year senior in the transfer portal? 2 million? 3 million?
Who will be the first college player to make more than Saban?
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Originally Posted by
MadDawg
Nearly 1 million for a kid who has never played a single down of college football. What would the going rate for a 4th year senior in the transfer portal? 2 million? 3 million?
Who will be the first college player to make more than Saban?
Not sure but UCF is about to become very competitive. Mark it down.
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They'll get who ever they want no matter the price.
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Mississippi better do away with their State taxes to help
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Originally Posted by
Irondawg
I agree although a think a few schools that have always been buried but have some big alumni bases may try to ante up and get into this.
As all the NILs become public and people see what these guys are getting paid and especially what they are getting paid for ($10K exclusive interviews for example) the masses are going to wake up to what a farce it is. Then it's going to be interesting to see what schools do in response. I have no idea how it's going to shake out. Maybe it will be status quo but just different, but there is no way anyone with a straight face can believe it's not a recruiting tool.
So what does that mean for non Top 10 programs. Does the going rate for a upper 3 star double or triple or does it stay about where it is? At a certain point I don't know that boosters want to spend all their cash to chase a 8-4 season.
Between this and the transfer portal craziness I think the majority of the schools are going to seek some way to bring things into a balance. I'm very curious to see how that plays out though.
an
Texas and TAMU will rise, wait and see. Texas is on the rise already and they will be a power again soon. They are vested and committed to winning. Watch and see.
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Agree coach. We could have the advantage in baseball. Not so in the others
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At first thought you would think so. But it also could be a big problem down the line for those blue bloods. The worst thing that can happen to someone (especially young kids) is to get some money and get comfortable. If you take away that motivation or desire to succeed at the next level then they'll become complacent. Meanwhile the guys that didn't get as much and are still out to prove themselves will continue to work. Also, handing over a bunch of money to people who aren't mature enough to handle it can cause all sorts of ego and attitude problems. Maybe potential locker room issues.
So I can see both sides of it coming into play.
However, I lean to it hurting us more than helping. But my interest in cfball has dwindled mightily past few years so might as well put the nail in the coffin. Eventually people will tire of seeing the same 4-5 teams at the top and ratings will decline
Last edited by msugolf; 07-20-2021 at 01:15 PM.
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Originally Posted by
msugolf
The worst thing that can happen to someone (especially young kids) is to get some money and get comfortable. If you take away that motivation or desire to succeed at the next level then they'll become complacent.
There's no doubt this will hurt the quality of college footb...uh all college sports. Kids getting paid 6 figures to play for a temporary team until they start their real career? Yeah, why try that hard? Why play every game? You've already got paid. Opt outs will become even more common. Is the value of your NIL due to your sports prowess? Or your twitter following or youtube subscribers? What will increase your following? Playing sports? Or maybe being funny. Maybe it's being controversial. Maybe it's based on your looks.
The actual playing of the sport has been relegated to about 4 or 5 on the priority list. Maybe lower.
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Originally Posted by
MadDawg
There's no doubt this will hurt the quality of college footb...uh all college sports. Kids getting paid 6 figures to play for a temporary team until they start their real career? Yeah, why try that hard? Why play every game? You've already got paid. Opt outs will become even more common. Is the value of your NIL due to your sports prowess? Or your twitter following or youtube subscribers? What will increase your following? Playing sports? Or maybe being funny. Maybe it's being controversial. Maybe it's based on your looks.
The actual playing of the sport has been relegated to about 4 or 5 on the priority list. Maybe lower.
Yep it has. Just like with the rest of the society. Its not about whether you can do the actual job or skill great or based on performance; its based solely on your ability to influence others -- that's the desired "skill" nowadays. Thats why you have people who have absolutely no real or actual talent making millions on instagram and other platforms for doing nothing but pimping a product or talking about themselves. But yet they think they're great business leaders and highly gifted.
I'm expecting players to find a way to celebrate TDs by showing a company's instagram handle on their gloves or something. This whole thing will be a mess.
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Originally Posted by
msugolf
Yep it has. Just like with the rest of the society. Its not about whether you can do the actual job or skill great or based on performance; its based solely on your ability to influence others -- that's the desired "skill" nowadays. Thats why you have people who have absolutely no real or actual talent making millions on instagram and other platforms for doing nothing but pimping a product or talking about themselves. But yet they think they're great business leaders and highly gifted.
I'm expecting players to find a way to celebrate TDs by showing a company's instagram handle on their gloves or something. This whole thing will be a mess.
GOSH! That idea makes we want to barf.
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Originally Posted by
msugolf
At first thought you would think so. But it also could be a big problem down the line for those blue bloods. The worst thing that can happen to someone (especially young kids) is to get some money and get comfortable. If you take away that motivation or desire to succeed at the next level then they'll become complacent. Meanwhile the guys that didn't get as much and are still out to prove themselves will continue to work. Also, handing over a bunch of money to people who aren't mature enough to handle it can cause all sorts of ego and attitude problems. Maybe potential locker room issues.
So I can see both sides of it coming into play.
However, I lean to it hurting us more than helping. But my interest in cfball has dwindled mightily past few years so might as well put the nail in the coffin. Eventually people will tire of seeing the same 4-5 teams at the top and ratings will decline
I've already tired of seeing the same teams at the top every year. The playoff has bored the hell out of me lately. Just don't care. I think we need to accept that we're a baseball school and throw everything we have at that, then just take whatever we get in football.
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Originally Posted by
ArrowDawg
I've already tired of seeing the same teams at the top every year. The playoff has bored the hell out of me lately. Just don't care. I think we need to accept that we're a baseball school and throw everything we have at that, then just take whatever we get in football.
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