Football is over for us and schools like us

[CovertDawg]

It is a mess. D-1 Football is basically just bad minor league football from now on. Honestly, not even sure how Saban finds it fun at this point. He already has all the money in the world and his resume will say greatest college coach ever... and he could not hack it in the NFL when he did not have the best players.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Effect is still the same? $1.2M for a player who hasn't played?

I worded it wrong, let me rephrase:

The boosters currently hand out money to recruits, knowing full well 9/10 recruits wont be wanted by the staff by the time they're Srs/that they'll pick a rival school, who's also paying them. Overall, most of the under the table money goes to a lot of recruits that will never see the field for them. The wanted players are double, triple, or quadruple dipping from boosters from multiple schools. Poor booster networks (like ours) have to be careful who they pick because we can't "show the love" to as many recruits.

Under these new NIL laws, boosters can -instead of finding the promising 8th graders and beginning a 5 year journey of small bribes to them- pool their money. No more handouts to 5 LBs only for 1 to get offered by the staff, just pool that 5 recruits' worth of money and offer it all to the staffs top target. If that recruit gets offered more elsewhere, the boosters can decide to up their offer or move on to target #2.

So from a players' perspective, it will go from a multi year long trickle of $200 handshakes from multiple schools to a 1 time payout by the school you sign with. From the schools' perspective, it will be whoever can pit together the most booster $ will get the best recruits... which is how it is now. That's what I mean by it won't change anything.

Look at Cam Newton. Dude LITERALLY shopped himself around and took the best offer. Only difference now is it would be 180k for a 30 second add, vs 180k in a church offering plate

[Maroonthirteen]

I'm The bribes will still be made in recruiting for visits and on visits. However The larger paydays will be delayed and be much larger. In this environment, Cam Newton doesn't get $180k. He gets the promise of $1M once on campus.

Which this is what the NIL will be for recruiting. It will be an established "pay scale" for recruits to study and determine which school offers the largest pay scale.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I'm The bribes will still be made in recruiting for visits and on visits. However The larger paydays will be delayed and be much larger. In this environment, Cam Newton doesn't get $180k. He gets the promise of $1M once on campus.

Which this is what the NIL will be for recruiting. It will be an established "pay scale" for recruits to study and determine which school offers the largest pay scale.

Well either way we aren't getting him, so I'd rather the poor athlete take the cheating corrupt rich businessmen for all their worth. Seriously though, who'd you rather have the extra money? a 19 year old that's never had any and wants to help his mom get out of the trailer park? Or the 57 year old with a net worth of 18mil that's willing to cheat to win at football?

[MoreCowbell]

The smart play is to put all our resources and money into basketball and baseball. Be powerhouses in both of those. Football will still pay the bills but we will never be competitive enough to do anything so it is what it is

[confucius say]

I think this will eventually lead to (in the next 5-10 years) a minor league for college football and a return to amateur status for college players who play with little to no scholarships.

I could supper that

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

The smart play is to put all our resources and money into basketball and baseball. Be powerhouses in both of those. Football will still pay the bills but we will never be competitive enough to do anything so it is what it is

I think baseball. Basketball has a ton of blue bloods with more money than us, and we'd be fighting against history which recruits seem to care about.

[R2Dawg]

I agree although a think a few schools that have always been buried but have some big alumni bases may try to ante up and get into this.

As all the NILs become public and people see what these guys are getting paid and especially what they are getting paid for ($10K exclusive interviews for example) the masses are going to wake up to what a farce it is. Then it's going to be interesting to see what schools do in response. I have no idea how it's going to shake out. Maybe it will be status quo but just different, but there is no way anyone with a straight face can believe it's not a recruiting tool.

So what does that mean for non Top 10 programs. Does the going rate for a upper 3 star double or triple or does it stay about where it is? At a certain point I don't know that boosters want to spend all their cash to chase a 8-4 season.

Between this and the transfer portal craziness I think the majority of the schools are going to seek some way to bring things into a balance. I'm very curious to see how that plays out though.

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Texas and TAMU will rise, wait and see. Texas is on the rise already and they will be a power again soon. They are vested and committed to winning. Watch and see.

[TheLostDawg]

I think baseball. Basketball has a ton of blue bloods with more money than us, and we'd be fighting against history which recruits seem to care about.

That and private colleges in big cities with wealthy alumni like Dayton. They'll pour their money into basketball. We're going to have to put money into basketball just to stay relevant.

Football is going to be run by the same teams as it was "in the good ole days" which is when they all paid back then such as SMU, Texas, Alabama, ETC,.

Baseball is where we have the advantage. Only thing is, it doesn't bring much income. Maybe that changes in the future when everyone starts lose some interest in football

[coachnorm]

Now the NIL becomes a big factor in recruiting for the upcoming cycle. Kids are going to go where they can get the best deals. All this is just getting started.

Now HS players can do it since it doesn?t matter in college anymore. Some guys will have already been making money. HS transfers will begin to spike. Total shitshow ahead

The odd thing about this new evolution is Las Vegas which is home to the most corrupt high school football program in America: #2 is light years behind them? UNLV with all that Vegas glitch and elite stadium? You can say you heard it first; who has more money Tuscaloosa or Las Vegas?

[Cowbell]

Ill be honest I dont know enough about it to even say that would be legal to do

There is nothing they can do about it now other than try to make them sit out a year and that doesn't seem to work either.

[HoopsDawg]

Guys. They were already getting paid. Many assume the worst. It will be ok I think. Its not going to ruin the sport

Man, it's over for us. Absolutely over. South Carolina, Arkansas, Auburn, even UK are going to clean our clock. We are going to have to be the Oakland As of the SEC but moneyball doesn't work when it comes to Dline.

[Lord McBuckethead]

The NIL deals have all but assured that. It will only entrench the blue bloods in the top 5 even deeper.

https://tdalabamamag.com/2021/07/20/...il-nick-saban/

You act like smaller schools had a shot anyway?

[Ari Gold]

It’s going to be a complete shit show..

[HoopsDawg]

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Texas and TAMU will rise, wait and see. Texas is on the rise already and they will be a power again soon. They are vested and committed to winning. Watch and see.

SMU might make a comeback

[Offshore Dawg]

So many on here wanting to spend somebody else's money. So my question is what are some of you contributing to this cash source.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Yep, kinda like David & Goliath, only David?s slingshot was taken away.

David still has a Slingshot - now Goliath has a M4, night vision, and body armor

[maroonmania]

You act like smaller schools had a shot anyway?

Well, tell yourself that if it makes you feel better but, did we have a shot at a championship? Probably not, but for the last 30 years we've at least had a good shot to be competitive against most teams in our league. Not sure if even that will be possible anymore. What we've had to date has been the equivalent of a lot of schools running 65 to 70 in a 55 mph zone with the concern that they may come around a corner and meet up with a highway patrolman. What we will have now is no speed limit and no law enforcement anywhere to be found. This seems to be more like us trying to keep up on a race track in a Ford Escort against Porsches and Ferraris. We have one of the smallest fanbases in the SEC and our school is one of the more rurally located of any P5 school. Not a good combination with NIL which is nothing more than an athlete money grab from boosters.

[Jack Lambert]

I don't think it is going to make that big of a difference. Cannon Motors might pay a Ole Miss player if he pans out to be good but not anyone coming out of high school. Business are not going to throw money away. I think they are going to have to be proven. At first there will be mistakes made giving money to unproven guys but they will learn. I just think nothing has changed. The Supreme Court did not say the schools had to pay the players it only said college athletes can make money off their name and images. You have to be good to get the big contracts and those guys were going to Bama and LSU anyways. Where it might be trouble a guy turns out to be good and some advertiser tell him he has to transfer to Bama as part of the contract. Who knows if enough schools gets pissed off the NCAA might change the transfer rules back to what they use to be if it gets out of hand.

[ShotgunDawg]

My biggest problem with the NIL is that these kids aren't capitalizing on their NIL. It's just boosters paying kids for recruiting purposes.