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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I would be surprised to see Stinnett start.
Agree
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So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?
His slider was good last year. At least the bite on his slider. Location, now that's another story.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
His slider was good last year. At least the bite on his slider. Location, now that's another story.
Another thought on #3, who ever it might be. What we learned in Omaha is that this team can roll out 5 or 6 arms on a Sunday and keep batters under control.
Might be the way that Foxhall attacks the deep, experienced hitting teams like LSU, Arkansas, and OM. Never let anybody see the same pitcher twice
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?
He was better at it in summer ball. Not sure that I would just make him a starter based on his summer though. It wasn't like he had a Stratton/Dakota Hudson type summer in the Cape or anything like that. I don't think he even started in summer ball either but I could be wrong about that.
He'll be a good bullpen piece for us but he was honestly pretty lucky last year with how much he walked people.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
He was better at it in summer ball. Not sure that I would just make him a starter based on his summer though. It wasn't like he had a Stratton/Dakota Hudson type summer in the Cape or anything like that. I don't think he even started in summer ball either but I could be wrong about that.
He'll be a good bullpen piece for us but he was honestly pretty lucky last year with how much he walked people.
The 2021 Cape Hero is Mikey Tepper. But only pitched 9 innings, but 2-0 in 2 starts, 0.00 ERA
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?
Fun preseason stats: 149, 115, and 125
Those were the opposing batting averages against Sims, Cade, and Stinnett in 2021.
Stinnett with control could be very special, that's why his great Fall is very interesting, D1 gave him a nice write up
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
Fun preseason stats: 149, 115, and 125
Those were the opposing batting averages against Sims, Cade, and Stinnett in 2021.
Stinnett with control could be very special, that's why his great Fall is very interesting, D1 gave him a nice write up
Hard to hit something that isn't in the strike zone! LOL. Stinnett with control is probably our closer. But he's probably going to be a lot closer to Cole Gordon than Landon Sims. If he even is the closer. Preston Johnson and others will have a say in that as well.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Hard to hit something that isn't in the strike zone! LOL. Stinnett with control is probably our closer. But he's probably going to be a lot closer to Cole Gordon than Landon Sims. If he even is the closer. Preston Johnson and others will have a say in that as well.
Early or late Cole Gordon? Cause if we talking Post Mullet, knee locking curveball Cole, bring it!!!
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Hard to hit something that isn't in the strike zone! LOL. Stinnett with control is probably our closer. But he's probably going to be a lot closer to Cole Gordon than Landon Sims. If he even is the closer. Preston Johnson and others will have a say in that as well.
We'll see. The player got 31 Ks in 18 innings with 13 SEC or Regional outings. Foxhall had many options.
Funny thing for me, I was alone in the same argument last year about Houston Harding
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
Funny thing for me, I was alone in the same argument last year about Houston Harding
Say what now?
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I think our rotation is Sims, Smith, and then a battle between Fristoe and Walling.
I think the closer could be KC Hunt.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
I think our rotation is Sims, Smith, and then a battle between Fristoe and Walling.
I think the closer could be KC Hunt.
I think Tepper has better stuff than Hunt! We?ll see how much he?s progressed! Kid?s got a big time arm for sure!
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
I think Tepper has better stuff than Hunt! We?ll see how much he?s progressed! Kid?s got a big time arm for sure!
It's great to have so many prospects, considering that MSU ended 2021 with Bednar as the only original rotation guy still performing to expectations, having this quality depth and options is critical.
- Original #2 Pre-Season All American developed mechanical problems late and lost his snap
- Original #3 stayed at his freshman development level
- Original #4 went from Freshman All American to regular Freshman
Yet, still won a National Championship due to depth that could replace the expected performance
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
The 2021 Cape Hero is Mikey Tepper. But only pitched 9 innings, but 2-0 in 2 starts, 0.00 ERA
Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
Early or late Cole Gordon? Cause if we talking Post Mullet, knee locking curveball Cole, bring it!!!
Hopefully late Cole Gordon.
Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
We'll see. The player got 31 Ks in 18 innings with 13 SEC or Regional outings. Foxhall had many options.
Funny thing for me, I was alone in the same argument last year about Houston Harding
Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
Another thought on #3, who ever it might be. What we learned in Omaha is that this team can roll out 5 or 6 arms on a Sunday and keep batters under control.
Might be the way that Foxhall attacks the deep, experienced hitting teams like LSU, Arkansas, and OM. Never let anybody see the same pitcher twice
I'm not sure that the staff would prefer to do that though. Would mean that midweek would be an adventure as well.
Originally Posted by
Saltydog
I think Tepper has better stuff than Hunt! We?ll see how much he?s progressed! Kid?s got a big time arm for sure!
The thing about Tepper is he has to show consistent command. That's the key for him.
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If I have learned anything about our coaching and the ever changing college game, it is that I am more concerned with how deep and effective our bullpen is than how good our starters are.
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My initial thoughts at the rotation would be Sims, Cade, and Simmons....but that would be 3 RHP's, and I'm thinking we'll want at least 1 Lefty starter in the weekend rotation. That leads to my next question....can someone list our LH arms? Do we have many LHP's? Bc I feel like having a few go-to LHP's is huge in postseason for matchups
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
My initial thoughts at the rotation would be Sims, Cade, and Simmons....but that would be 3 RHP's, and I'm thinking we'll want at least 1 Lefty starter in the weekend rotation. That leads to my next question....can someone list our LH arms? Do we have many LHP's? Bc I feel like having a few go-to LHP's is huge in postseason for matchups
The starters used in the Inter-Team series and the Bama game were:
(A) Bama - Fristoe: 1 inning 1 Run 1 Hit (HR)
(B) B Smith - 4 innings, 5 hits, 1 run
(C) Walling - less than 1 inning with 4 walks, 4 runs, 9 batters faced
(D) Simmons - 3 innings with 5 runs, 6 hits
(E) Stinnett - 4 innings and 9 Ks and 1 BB, 2 runs
(F) Kohn - 1 inning, 3 runs
(G) C Smith -2 innings 6 runs
So after Sims, there were quite a few players given a shot to start in the fall. ED seems to have Sims and C Smith as given starters with #3 being different for each poster.
The 3rd starter by the 1st SEC Series seems like a great V-Cash betting topic.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
The starters used in the Inter-Team series and the Bama game were:
(A) Bama - Fristoe: 1 inning 1 Run 1 Hit (HR)
(B) B Smith - 4 innings, 5 hits, 1 run
(C) Walling - less than 1 inning with 4 walks, 4 runs, 9 batters faced
(D) Simmons - 3 innings with 5 runs, 6 hits
(E) Stinnett - 4 innings and 9 Ks and 1 BB, 2 runs
(F) Kohn - 1 inning, 3 runs
(G) C Smith -2 innings 6 runs
So after Sims, there were quite a few players given a shot to start in the fall. ED seems to have Sims and C Smith as given starters with #3 being different for each poster.
The 3rd starter by the 1st SEC Series seems like a great V-Cash betting topic.
Good idea on the V-Cash thought. So based on your knowledge of the team, who do you see as a possible left handed option both as a starter and/or a top matchup guy out of the pen down the stretch?
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Good idea on the V-Cash thought. So based on your knowledge of the team, who do you see as a possible left handed option both as a starter and/or a top matchup guy out of the pen down the stretch?
This a better Todd question. The lefties are Walling, Tullar Kohn, Cheatham, and Montiel.
Tullar is a roster player but did not pitch in the Fall. He was ok last year, after being a big recruit that the 2020 draft left behind. 6+ ERA in 2021 but half the runs in two outings. He made the CWS roster. He was used as a matchup guy in 2021.
Walling is the big upside guy (ranked 143 of 200 top MLB draft prospects) but with control issues. The young man is angling to perform, contribute and be drafted highly in 2022. That would be great. https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/...walling-681003
Kohn is the biggest lefty HS recruit, could be the lefty with the most innings/appearances pitched in 2022. He got lots of work in the Fall and versus Alabama.
If Foxhall can push the right buttons with big prospects like Walling and Kohn, that would be huge for 2022.
On closers, without Sims, I have no guess.
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