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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I would be surprised to see Stinnett start.
    Agree

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    So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?
    His slider was good last year. At least the bite on his slider. Location, now that's another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    His slider was good last year. At least the bite on his slider. Location, now that's another story.
    Another thought on #3, who ever it might be. What we learned in Omaha is that this team can roll out 5 or 6 arms on a Sunday and keep batters under control.

    Might be the way that Foxhall attacks the deep, experienced hitting teams like LSU, Arkansas, and OM. Never let anybody see the same pitcher twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?
    He was better at it in summer ball. Not sure that I would just make him a starter based on his summer though. It wasn't like he had a Stratton/Dakota Hudson type summer in the Cape or anything like that. I don't think he even started in summer ball either but I could be wrong about that.

    He'll be a good bullpen piece for us but he was honestly pretty lucky last year with how much he walked people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    He was better at it in summer ball. Not sure that I would just make him a starter based on his summer though. It wasn't like he had a Stratton/Dakota Hudson type summer in the Cape or anything like that. I don't think he even started in summer ball either but I could be wrong about that.

    He'll be a good bullpen piece for us but he was honestly pretty lucky last year with how much he walked people.
    The 2021 Cape Hero is Mikey Tepper. But only pitched 9 innings, but 2-0 in 2 starts, 0.00 ERA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?
    Fun preseason stats: 149, 115, and 125

    Those were the opposing batting averages against Sims, Cade, and Stinnett in 2021.

    Stinnett with control could be very special, that's why his great Fall is very interesting, D1 gave him a nice write up

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    Fun preseason stats: 149, 115, and 125

    Those were the opposing batting averages against Sims, Cade, and Stinnett in 2021.

    Stinnett with control could be very special, that's why his great Fall is very interesting, D1 gave him a nice write up
    Hard to hit something that isn't in the strike zone! LOL. Stinnett with control is probably our closer. But he's probably going to be a lot closer to Cole Gordon than Landon Sims. If he even is the closer. Preston Johnson and others will have a say in that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Hard to hit something that isn't in the strike zone! LOL. Stinnett with control is probably our closer. But he's probably going to be a lot closer to Cole Gordon than Landon Sims. If he even is the closer. Preston Johnson and others will have a say in that as well.
    Early or late Cole Gordon? Cause if we talking Post Mullet, knee locking curveball Cole, bring it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Hard to hit something that isn't in the strike zone! LOL. Stinnett with control is probably our closer. But he's probably going to be a lot closer to Cole Gordon than Landon Sims. If he even is the closer. Preston Johnson and others will have a say in that as well.
    We'll see. The player got 31 Ks in 18 innings with 13 SEC or Regional outings. Foxhall had many options.

    Funny thing for me, I was alone in the same argument last year about Houston Harding

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    Funny thing for me, I was alone in the same argument last year about Houston Harding
    Say what now?

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    I think our rotation is Sims, Smith, and then a battle between Fristoe and Walling.

    I think the closer could be KC Hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I think our rotation is Sims, Smith, and then a battle between Fristoe and Walling.

    I think the closer could be KC Hunt.
    I think Tepper has better stuff than Hunt! We?ll see how much he?s progressed! Kid?s got a big time arm for sure!
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog View Post
    I think Tepper has better stuff than Hunt! We?ll see how much he?s progressed! Kid?s got a big time arm for sure!
    It's great to have so many prospects, considering that MSU ended 2021 with Bednar as the only original rotation guy still performing to expectations, having this quality depth and options is critical.

    - Original #2 Pre-Season All American developed mechanical problems late and lost his snap
    - Original #3 stayed at his freshman development level
    - Original #4 went from Freshman All American to regular Freshman

    Yet, still won a National Championship due to depth that could replace the expected performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    The 2021 Cape Hero is Mikey Tepper. But only pitched 9 innings, but 2-0 in 2 starts, 0.00 ERA
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    Early or late Cole Gordon? Cause if we talking Post Mullet, knee locking curveball Cole, bring it!!!
    Hopefully late Cole Gordon.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    We'll see. The player got 31 Ks in 18 innings with 13 SEC or Regional outings. Foxhall had many options.

    Funny thing for me, I was alone in the same argument last year about Houston Harding
    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    Another thought on #3, who ever it might be. What we learned in Omaha is that this team can roll out 5 or 6 arms on a Sunday and keep batters under control.

    Might be the way that Foxhall attacks the deep, experienced hitting teams like LSU, Arkansas, and OM. Never let anybody see the same pitcher twice
    I'm not sure that the staff would prefer to do that though. Would mean that midweek would be an adventure as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog View Post
    I think Tepper has better stuff than Hunt! We?ll see how much he?s progressed! Kid?s got a big time arm for sure!
    The thing about Tepper is he has to show consistent command. That's the key for him.

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    If I have learned anything about our coaching and the ever changing college game, it is that I am more concerned with how deep and effective our bullpen is than how good our starters are.

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    My initial thoughts at the rotation would be Sims, Cade, and Simmons....but that would be 3 RHP's, and I'm thinking we'll want at least 1 Lefty starter in the weekend rotation. That leads to my next question....can someone list our LH arms? Do we have many LHP's? Bc I feel like having a few go-to LHP's is huge in postseason for matchups

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    My initial thoughts at the rotation would be Sims, Cade, and Simmons....but that would be 3 RHP's, and I'm thinking we'll want at least 1 Lefty starter in the weekend rotation. That leads to my next question....can someone list our LH arms? Do we have many LHP's? Bc I feel like having a few go-to LHP's is huge in postseason for matchups
    The starters used in the Inter-Team series and the Bama game were:

    (A) Bama - Fristoe: 1 inning 1 Run 1 Hit (HR)
    (B) B Smith - 4 innings, 5 hits, 1 run
    (C) Walling - less than 1 inning with 4 walks, 4 runs, 9 batters faced
    (D) Simmons - 3 innings with 5 runs, 6 hits
    (E) Stinnett - 4 innings and 9 Ks and 1 BB, 2 runs
    (F) Kohn - 1 inning, 3 runs
    (G) C Smith -2 innings 6 runs

    So after Sims, there were quite a few players given a shot to start in the fall. ED seems to have Sims and C Smith as given starters with #3 being different for each poster.

    The 3rd starter by the 1st SEC Series seems like a great V-Cash betting topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    The starters used in the Inter-Team series and the Bama game were:

    (A) Bama - Fristoe: 1 inning 1 Run 1 Hit (HR)
    (B) B Smith - 4 innings, 5 hits, 1 run
    (C) Walling - less than 1 inning with 4 walks, 4 runs, 9 batters faced
    (D) Simmons - 3 innings with 5 runs, 6 hits
    (E) Stinnett - 4 innings and 9 Ks and 1 BB, 2 runs
    (F) Kohn - 1 inning, 3 runs
    (G) C Smith -2 innings 6 runs

    So after Sims, there were quite a few players given a shot to start in the fall. ED seems to have Sims and C Smith as given starters with #3 being different for each poster.

    The 3rd starter by the 1st SEC Series seems like a great V-Cash betting topic.
    Good idea on the V-Cash thought. So based on your knowledge of the team, who do you see as a possible left handed option both as a starter and/or a top matchup guy out of the pen down the stretch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Good idea on the V-Cash thought. So based on your knowledge of the team, who do you see as a possible left handed option both as a starter and/or a top matchup guy out of the pen down the stretch?
    This a better Todd question. The lefties are Walling, Tullar Kohn, Cheatham, and Montiel.

    Tullar is a roster player but did not pitch in the Fall. He was ok last year, after being a big recruit that the 2020 draft left behind. 6+ ERA in 2021 but half the runs in two outings. He made the CWS roster. He was used as a matchup guy in 2021.

    Walling is the big upside guy (ranked 143 of 200 top MLB draft prospects) but with control issues. The young man is angling to perform, contribute and be drafted highly in 2022. That would be great. https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/...walling-681003

    Kohn is the biggest lefty HS recruit, could be the lefty with the most innings/appearances pitched in 2022. He got lots of work in the Fall and versus Alabama.

    If Foxhall can push the right buttons with big prospects like Walling and Kohn, that would be huge for 2022.

    On closers, without Sims, I have no guess.

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