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    SEC Baseball Stats - SEC Games only thru 5/9

    http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2021/seconly.pdf

    File under "this is why you let the season play out"

    Interesting MSU stats
    7th in Team AVG - .263
    4th in Team ERA - 4.27
    6th in OBP - .357
    1st in HBP -33 (I think half of those are Rowdey)
    Fewest k's by Batters -180 (lead by 21 fewer K's)
    Most K's by pitchers - 290 (lead by 21)
    2nd in fewest Hits allowed - 187

    Tanner Allen 1st in AVG (.406), 2nd in SLUG (.729), 2nd in OBP (.487), 2nd in Hits (39), 1st in 3B's (4), 2nd in RBI's (27), 2nd in Total Bases, Tied for 1st with Rowdey in HBP (9)

    Rowdey Jordan 11th in AVG (.344), 15th in SLG (.581), 3rd in OBP (.479), 1st in Runs (29), 12th in Hits (32), tied for 1st in HBP (9)

    MacLeod 12th in ERA (3.48), 9th in OBA (.208), 14th in K's (41), 11th in fewest runs allowed (17)
    Bednar 13th in OBA (.236), 3rd in K's (66), 4th in W's (4).
    Neither are in the Top 13 of Innings Pitched.
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    somebody needs to splain' these stats. is Billy Bean runnin' things or something? so we lead by a wide margin regarding our pitchers striking out batters and we have a wide margin lead on our batters NOT striking out? that's the difference that puts us at a high level regarding W/L while being only slightly better than average with other stats?

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    The pitching was good this weekened, for the most part, but that era is not "elite".
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Tanner Allen is making a REALLY strong case for SEC POY at this point.

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    Think he needs to get his Hr's up just a bit but yeah he should definitely be in the discussion at this point.
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog View Post
    The pitching was good this weekened, for the most part, but that era is not "elite".
    What do you consider elite? Vandy is at 3.84, it’s close and they are missing a game so that could change some either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    somebody needs to splain' these stats. is Billy Bean runnin' things or something? so we lead by a wide margin regarding our pitchers striking out batters and we have a wide margin lead on our batters NOT striking out? that's the difference that puts us at a high level regarding W/L while being only slightly better than average with other stats?
    A couple of other thoughts on why our record might look better than our individual stats:

    Even though our 1/2 punch doesn't look that impressive, because Vandy, Ark, and even UM have strong 1/2 punches, we've still got two pitchers better than the best starting pitcher on 7 teams in the league.
    Not sure if this is true, but possibly MacLeod and Bednar have been good when they're on, and really bad when they're not, and so those bad nights hurt their stats a lot while not costing many L's?
    Similarly, Sims is probably worth a few wins without his pitching stats counting a lot towards our team aveages. The first time we have a lead late in an SEC weekend, we're going to get a win out of it. But that doesn't do a ton for team pitching stats because he's been used sparingly, so he moves the needle a lot with those limited innings.

    Other than that, yes, it would appear to be some billy bean type stuff going on somewhere where we are maybe undervaluing some stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    A couple of other thoughts on why our record might look better than our individual stats:

    Even though our 1/2 punch doesn't look that impressive, because Vandy, Ark, and even UM have strong 1/2 punches, we've still got two pitchers better than the best starting pitcher on 7 teams in the league.
    Not sure if this is true, but possibly MacLeod and Bednar have been good when they're on, and really bad when they're not, and so those bad nights hurt their stats a lot while not costing many L's?
    Similarly, Sims is probably worth a few wins without his pitching stats counting a lot towards our team aveages. The first time we have a lead late in an SEC weekend, we're going to get a win out of it. But that doesn't do a ton for team pitching stats because he's been used sparingly, so he moves the needle a lot with those limited innings.

    Other than that, yes, it would appear to be some billy bean type stuff going on somewhere where we are maybe undervaluing some stats.
    Our pitching as a whole is second in both opp BAVG and extra base hits allowed. We are also really good at holding teams with RISP. I would be interested to see what our staff’s FIP is and how that might also be a part of the reason the ERA may be a little higher than the actual pitching is giving us.

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    Hey Momma McCants,
    Wouldn’t it be great to watch both your sons play together?..
    Make this happen..

    And yes TA should be in the running and ( IMO) should win POY IF it goes to a position player.. as of today

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Tanner Allen is making a REALLY strong case for SEC POY at this point.
    Yep but I think a pitcher from Vandy will get it because of all the media attn. BTW Pitchers should be kept out of POY consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    A couple of other thoughts on why our record might look better than our individual stats:

    Even though our 1/2 punch doesn't look that impressive, because Vandy, Ark, and even UM HAD strong 1/2 punches, we've still got two pitchers better than the best starting pitcher on 7 teams in the league.
    Not sure if this is true, but possibly MacLeod and Bednar have been good when they're on, and really bad when they're not, and so those bad nights hurt their stats a lot while not costing many L's?
    Similarly, Sims is probably worth a few wins without his pitching stats counting a lot towards our team aveages. The first time we have a lead late in an SEC weekend, we're going to get a win out of it. But that doesn't do a ton for team pitching stats because he's been used sparingly, so he moves the needle a lot with those limited innings.

    Other than that, yes, it would appear to be some billy bean type stuff going on somewhere where we are maybe undervaluing some stats.
    FIFY OLE MISS HAD a strong 1, 2 punch..... no more. Hate it for the kid though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Our pitching as a whole is second in both opp BAVG and extra base hits allowed. We are also really good at holding teams with RISP. I would be interested to see what our staff’s FIP is and how that might also be a part of the reason the ERA may be a little higher than the actual pitching is giving us.
    Good Stuff Johnson and Clark, makes sense. I think the bottom line is that we just may be as gooda' coached team there is right now.

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    12th in fielding. 2nd in DPs hit into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    12th in fielding. 2nd in DPs hit into.
    Damn, the fielding and DPs hit into owes a debt; pitching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    12th in fielding. 2nd in DPs hit into.
    The eternal pessimist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    The eternal pessimist
    Just telling you what I've said since day one. We can't field it and we've got to get bats in the lineup where possible. The defense can't be fixed. The hitting can improve with a couple guys like Clark and Cumbest hitting. Cumbest struggled this weekend some, but he's the best option. We're stuck with James at 3B. Hancock will have to hold down 1B.
    Shitty defense has been the reason for a lot of our losses. The lineup got us with Hatcher, Leggett, Skinner in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    12th in fielding. 2nd in DPs hit into.
    We even the double plays out though by being second in turning them and a net positive +6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Just telling you what I've said since day one. We can't field it and we've got to get bats in the lineup where possible. The defense can't be fixed. The hitting can improve with a couple guys like Clark and Cumbest hitting. Cumbest struggled this weekend some, but he's the best option. We're stuck with James at 3B. Hancock will have to hold down 1B.
    Shitty defense has been the reason for a lot of our losses. The lineup got us with Hatcher, Leggett, Skinner in there.
    I don’t think we lost a game with Leggett at 3rd. I know we won 5 in a row until the change Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Just telling you what I've said since day one. We can't field it and we've got to get bats in the lineup where possible. The defense can't be fixed. The hitting can improve with a couple guys like Clark and Cumbest hitting. Cumbest struggled this weekend some, but he's the best option. We're stuck with James at 3B. Hancock will have to hold down 1B.
    Shitty defense has been the reason for a lot of our losses. The lineup got us with Hatcher, Leggett, Skinner in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    12th in fielding. 2nd in DPs hit into.
    <poot noises>

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