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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
It should have been. I am not in the business of making excuses for the liberal media. I think all media has become agenda, clicks and ratings driven rather than honest reporting no matter the slant they chose.
We have many issues, I believe a lot of it stems from racism and many do not. You bring an example. I see it and go yes, Police get desensitized just like the rest of us and they can be callous to everyone. I can show you many examples that very thing. I also have experienced and seen racism also be a problem but will you read them with an open mind.
People need to discuss the merits without anger in order to come up with proper solution. See Leach's speech to the Ole Miss law school. He made a dang good point about that very topic. That speech is worth watching just for that point and may be something I need to think about more than you but it's a point taken to heart by me.
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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
Pretty obvious. One was white, the other black. If Timpa had been black, I'm sure you would see the same type of reaction we had for the Chauvin trial. Such is the way of politics in America today.
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What Sharpton and Waters did was give Chauvin some pretty solid footing for an appeal, when he had none otherwise. They are idiots.
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Originally Posted by
Hot Rock
I am the son of a law enforcement officer of over 30 years in MS and former WWII(1942-1945) armored infantry & Korean Conflict. He fought hand to hand across Africa, Italy, southern France, Belgium, into Alps and crossed Rhine river with Patton. He was the first man to open the gates of Dachau concentration camp and a nearby internment camp for POW's. I am as patriotic as it comes and bleed red, white and blue and I say:
George Floyd's murderer was found guilty and the University made a statement. I think it's good because it needs to be made clear that we have a problem.
I believe that if there had been no video evidence, not one thing would have been done. Even after the video, we have people defending this murderer, which I find sickening.
We cannot begin to figure out a solution until enough of us acknowledge that we have a real problem.
I say, this is a problem that cannot be solved as long we remain divided along Conservative and Liberal lines.
Then the statement should have been about the problem represented by this case-excessive force by police resulting in murder. That was the problem addressed by the jury in its verdict. Instead, the statement was about the "difficult issue" of racism, when keenum (or us) has no idea if racism motivated chauvin. It could have, but there was no evidence presented of that.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
He is speaking to the student body more than anyone. A student body that made it pretty clear this was an issue that was important to them. It was a responsible "we listen to our students concerns" moment and releasing a statement is the right thing to do. Us agreeing or disagreeing with it is immaterial.
Fair point. But the statement should address what the facts revealed-excessive force resulting in death. Keenum's statement made it 100% a race issue.
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IMO Chauvin murdered Floyd. But what in the hell did race have to do with it?
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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
You ask as you link to an article about the case from a "liberal news outlet"
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Why do people worry about this kind of stuff? I'd say people worry about too much stupid stuff these days. I don't even keep up with statements from the school. Never saw it until this thread.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Why do people worry about this kind of stuff? I'd say people worry about too much stupid stuff these days. I don't even keep up with statements from the school. Never saw it until this thread.
Because we want MSU to be competent. This may not blow up and hurt us, but it was an unnecessary risk. My bigger issue is that after we clearly showed we were incompetent at PR with Leach's tweet, we didn't go out and get some help. Keep doing stupid shit and we are going to be the next Mizzou.
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Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
I guess this is where we disagree. I don't think a university should be everything to everyone. I think it is there to educate. If a student has concerns over a class, then Keenum should listen. But if a student has an issue related to something that is none of the university's business, then I would have no problem with Keenum saying "that is not under my jurisdiction". That's my personal opinion.
Speculating here, but Keenum may have been throwing up a rather muted defense of reasoned debate on a college campus. It's no secret that the woke/CRT crowd (and most talking-head liberals) are very interested in stamping out any and all debate or any expression of opinion that differs from their group think. They think of college campuses are their fortresses of solitude rather than marketplaces of ideas. Maybe Keenum is trying to plant a very short, limp, flag when he says "Discussing difficult subjects in an arena of mutual respect with an eye toward seeking constructive solutions . . ."
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
Because we want MSU to be competent. This may not blow up and hurt us, but it was an unnecessary risk. My bigger issue is that after we clearly showed we were incompetent at PR with Leach's tweet, we didn't go out and get some help. Keep doing stupid shit and we are going to be the next Mizzou.
There was nothing in that to blow up. I didn't care for the sin comment because you bring religion into it, but other than that, I don't see the issue unless you're a far right/left nut job.
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When Kingston Frazier was kidnapped at the Kroger on I-55 in Jackson, then killed and left in Gluckstadt, did the president of the University of Oregon release a statement? And why would he?
To show you the stupidity, Jackson's Mayor Lumumba released a statement about the George Floyd verdict. However, Mayor Lumumba did not release a statement to notify the people in Jackson of all of the issues with the water system, the EPA findings, the dangers of the water, etc. And that is directly under his responsibility and jurisdiction. That is akin to our left tackle knowing what the leftfielder should do on a flyball to short rightfield when there are runners on first and second, and yet not knowing who to block on a run play against a 4-man front.
In my opinion, worry about your responsibilities first, before you worry about something that is none of your business and you have no jurisdiction over. We pay Keenum to run our university. We don't pay him to run the Minneapolis Police Department or judicial system.
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