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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex54 View Post
    Can they consent to puberty blockers?
    I don't really know much about those, but it's telling that even you knew you couldn't keep up the sad, pathetic "hurr durr LGBT = pedophilia" argument and had to change the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Nobody is discounting birth defects in these discussions and it certainly doesn’t disprove that the biology and science is completely settled concerning the overwhelming majority of normal humans. You bring it up more than once but in these birth defects gender confusion is also extremely low in these groups of birth defects. For the majority, who are not developmentally challenged, which many are because these defects are not just about sex abnormalities, they have no confusion about their sex. Some syndromes require hormones because their bodies simply don’t produce enough or any. But again, no body is discussing birth defects and it absolutely does not change the science that 100% of children born without a sex chromosome birth defect have XX or XY. Period and it is not a debatable topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I don't really know much about those, but it's telling that even you knew you couldn't keep up the sad, pathetic "hurr durr LGBT = pedophilia" argument and had to change the subject.
    Oh now you don't know much about something - get the **** out of here with your bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    60% of America is "in the middle". Agree that some that claim to swing one way or the other is in hiding. My father's generation (30s to 80s) voted for the person, more or less, than the party. That is GONE! It's party line voting, right or wrong, beliefs or not, "can't give an inch" bullshit. You wanna fix this country, 1) Term limits and 2) get rid of Parties. Listen to what the person says... chances are you agree with 60% of what they say.
    That's because the parties focus on wedge issues that divide us. It' virtually impossible to just vote for the person these days because both parties drive extreme wedges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Nobody is discounting birth defects in these discussions and it certainly doesn’t disprove that the biology and science is completely settled concerning the overwhelming majority of normal humans. You bring it up more than once but in these birth defects gender confusion is also extremely low in these groups of birth defects. For the majority, who are not developmentally challenged, which many are because these defects are not just about sex abnormalities, they have no confusion about their sex. Some syndromes require hormones because their bodies simply don’t produce enough or any. But again, no body is discussing birth defects and it absolutely does not change the science that 100% of children born without a sex chromosome birth defect have XX or XY. Period and it is not a debatable topic.
    I don't think most intersex people, or people with any of those conditions listed, would consider themselves to have "birth defects," but nonetheless, you putting "born without a sex chromosome birth defect" qualifier in there totally changes the sentence he typed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex54 View Post
    Oh now you don't know much about something - get the **** out of here with your bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    The fact is the NCAA want this to happen. So why are we fighting it? Who cares if you personally don?t believe in it? That doesn?t matter.

    I personally don?t believe in a lot of shit but does anybody care? No.
    But if good people don't stand for what's right, then who will ever stand for what's right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    That's because the parties focus on wedge issues that divide us. It' virtually impossible to just vote for the person these days because both parties drive extreme wedges.
    The parties don't do that. The two parties are one party. The system sets up the false dichotomies within the two parties to keep everyone chasing each other in a circle. It's the system, not the parties/politicians/elections that needs to be the focus. It's the system that has to go.

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    Quoaras, can a child consent to puberty blockers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I don't think most intersex people, or people with any of those conditions listed, would consider themselves to have "birth defects," but nonetheless, you putting "born without a sex chromosome birth defect" qualifier in there totally changes the sentence he typed.
    Actually they do, it is a chromosome abnormalities and listed as a birth defect within the same grouping as Downs Syndrome, which is also a chromosome birth defect. Just dealing with a different spectrum. Downs actually had a better mortality rate and life span than many of the abnormalities you listed. Honestly for many, the sex and gender issue is down the list of problems for a significant number of these children. Also, like Downs Children, the mothers age is a huge factor in increased risk. Also, countries with more stringent testing for Downs Syndrome using that test do catch maybe upward to 50% of SCA’s (studies are lagging so there is room for error on that, maybe as low as 33%). But that’s using the same test for Downs.

    ETA: You mentioned Turner and Klinfelter and I meant to add, Turner can only show in a biological female and Klinfelter in biological males. The actual defect requires them to be a specific gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Actually they do, it is a chromosome abnormalities and listed as a birth defect within the same grouping as Downs Syndrome, which is also a chromosome birth defect. Just dealing with a different spectrum. Downs actually had a better mortality rate and life span than many of the abnormalities you listed. Honestly for many, the sex and gender issue is down the list of problems for a significant number of these children. Also, like Downs Children, the mothers age is a huge factor in increased risk. Also, countries with more stringent testing for Downs Syndrome using that test do catch maybe upward to 50% of SCA’s (studies are lagging so there is room for error on that, maybe as low as 33%). But that’s using the same test for Downs.

    ETA: You mentioned Turner and Klinfelter and I meant to add, Turner can only show in a biological female and Klinfelter in biological males. The actual defect requires them to be a specific gender.
    I like what you are saying here. It’s logical. Maybe these trans folks should have their own sporting events. Kind of like special olympics. If we are going to let someone with a chromosome abnormality play a women’s sports the. Why not let a person with Down’s syndrome cross over and play against the women. Look, what some people fail to understand... not everyone can be an athlete. Period. Good post Clark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex54 View Post
    Give me a Christian dictatorship over this absolute clown world of a country. Suspend all rights and throw every last person, doctor, parent, advocate of this in a prison.

    Mark my words the issue at hand in 10 years will be pedophilia. And you can bet the GOP will be fully on board the mental ill trans agenda by then.
    Mark my words. You don't listen and keep stirring shit when you have been told to lay off. Enjoy a couple of weeks off.

    Now I need someone else to step up and be hatchers cheerleader for 2 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    We are now experiencing America under demoncrat rule. There will be a day that democrats are hunted by dogs. I look forward to that day.
    Look. You hate democrats and like to remind everyone of it. But that's f*cked up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    Also this has nothing to do with transgender issues.

    This is Maoist takeover of America with willing liberal idiots playing along.
    You haven't made a non-political post in almost 3 months.

    Take your politics elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    You think the Lord is not concerned with the this transgender filth? Wow.
    Careful with your judgment... The Lord is the only one who will judge his children. Anyone else who does is a sinner.

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