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    Not that I really care..
    But instead of going out and finding a Softball coach he just promotes from within.. an assistant that obviously had zero shot at getting a head job anywhere else
    Results

    In 9 leagues games , where our record is now 0-9
    We have scored
    0,1,0,0,0,0,0,7,3

    Outstanding..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Not that I really care..
    But instead of going out and finding a Softball coach he just promotes from within.. an assistant that obviously had zero shot at getting a head job anywhere else
    Results

    In 9 leagues games , where our record is now 0-9
    We have scored
    0,1,0,0,0,0,0,7,3

    Outstanding..
    That's a symptom of MSU. Keenum, wouldn't come close to being considered for President at another SEC school. Same with Cohen as AD. We are very incestuous, and that lack of fresh blood isn't a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    That's a symptom of MSU. Keenum, wouldn't come close to being considered for President at another SEC school. Same with Cohen as AD. We are very incestuous, and that lack of fresh blood isn't a good thing.
    I'm afraid you're right. I don't know that much about the presidents at MSU, but I'd say the last "good" one we had was Dr. Zacharias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Not that I really care..
    But instead of going out and finding a Softball coach he just promotes from within.. an assistant that obviously had zero shot at getting a head job anywhere else
    Results

    In 9 leagues games , where our record is now 0-9
    We have scored
    0,1,0,0,0,0,0,7,3

    Outstanding..
    I really didn’t have much of an issue of promoting Ricketts if you were going the assistant route and not pull a sitting HC like UM. She was established enough in the softball community that a HC job was coming to her at some point. Being a SEC job as her first was a huge risk though. To be fair, Vann would have been the same. We have problem pulling actual immediate help in recruits that can compete in the SEC. The rankings are a bigger crap shoot in softball than most other sports. So evaluation and development has to be at an extremely high level. The best player in the state over the last few years is just committed to Washington, the one before that went to Bama, etc. When we do have a player that can come in and help from the state, we can’t get them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    I really didn’t have much of an issue of promoting Ricketts if you were going the assistant route and not pull a sitting HC like UM. She was established enough in the softball community that a HC job was coming to her at some point. Being a SEC job as her first was a huge risk though. To be fair, Vann would have been the same. We have problem pulling actual immediate help in recruits that can compete in the SEC. The rankings are a bigger crap shoot in softball than most other sports. So evaluation and development has to be at an extremely high level. The best player in the state over the last few years is just committed to Washington, the one before that went to Bama, etc. When we do have a player that can come in and help from the state, we can’t get them.
    I would love to how many hires men / women doesn’t matter the sport, hired an assistant of the same coach he just fired..
    I’m guessing not many ..
    and I don’t mean a HC that stepped down, was asked to step down, retired , or left for another program...
    Actually fired.

    Again it’s just softball , I really don’t care but it shows to me how lazy of an hire it was and his inability to make a good hire.
    Softball would have been a perfect time to go outside the box , hire someone from anywhere , a new face , some new blood..
    Hell With all the top Softball programs in the SEC my first choice would have been there for an assistant.. somewhere where winning was in the culture..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Not that I really care..
    But instead of going out and finding a Softball coach he just promotes from within.. an assistant that obviously had zero shot at getting a head job anywhere else
    Results

    In 9 leagues games , where our record is now 0-9
    We have scored
    0,1,0,0,0,0,0,7,3

    Outstanding..
    In WBB he did NOT make the in house hire in a program that was rolling and is so far getting about the same kind of result. So in the softball program which was mediocre we hire from within, yet with the WBB program that was elite we apparently had to go find new blood. Hmm... neither is working. Think maybe Cohen got it backwards??

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    It's a little baffling how someone who earned the nickname "Intense Bastard" as a coach went on to hire both a football and a basketball coach who struggled/struggles to maintain motivation and discipline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    It's a little baffling how someone who earned the nickname "Intense Bastard" as a coach went on to hire both a football and a basketball coach who struggled/struggles to maintain motivation and discipline.
    What's baffling to me is why take a pay cut ... I don't know the numbers but I'm pretty sure he took a very healthy pay cut to move into that position
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    He is a micromanager on roids and is trying his best to interject woke political beliefs onto the current staff. I won't get into a lot of it but let's just say he is starting to get some pushback on how he is running the department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    He is a micromanager on roids and is trying his best to interject woke political beliefs onto the current staff. I won't get into a lot of it but let's just say he is starting to get some pushback on how he is running the department.
    I don't know how accurate your post is, but there is nothing worse than a micromanager. I mean, no one wants to work for a boss like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    He is a micromanager on roids and is trying his best to interject woke political beliefs onto the current staff. I won't get into a lot of it but let's just say he is starting to get some pushback on how he is running the department.

    From who?

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    As far as why Vic left, I've heard that one of his players, who was still here this year under the NMP disaster, had an overbearing Mom, who would come down to the 1st row behind the home bench and yell at the coach for not playing her daughter. And that it all started during the 2019/2020 season, while Vic was still here, and he was tired of dealing with it. And instead of kicking the girl off the team, he decided to leave it behind and make it become someone else's problem.

    Again. That's what I've heard, but cannot confirm it. One of the 1st 2 girls that entered the transfer portal, it was one of those 2 that had the problem mother. Not sure which it is, but I have an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    John Cohen let go of two coaches in female sports for asking for things. Some reasonable, some not. He doesn't give a shit about female athletics. But he better get his precious baseball program better if we're going all in there. We've got 99 problems but woke ain't one.
    Who was the other coach besides Vic?

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    When you compare what OM did with Women basketball and softball hires, Cohen looks like a total loser ass AD. Carter did better with his first football hire too.
    Last edited by Cooterpoot; 03-29-2021 at 10:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Carter did better with his first football hire too.
    That remains to be seen. Lane has never stayed at any job for more than 3 years. We'll see if this time is any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    That remains to be seen. Lane has never stayed at any job for more than 3 years. We'll see if this time is any different.
    He's already better than Moorhead. That's not even a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    John Cohen let go of two coaches in female sports for asking for things. Some reasonable, some not. He doesn't give a shit about female athletics. But he better get his precious baseball program better if we're going all in there. We've got 99 problems but woke ain't one.
    This is the second time you have posted these accusations without a single piece of evidence. Put up some specifics ..which I don't think you can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiscuitEater View Post
    This is the second time you have posted these accusations without a single piece of evidence. Put up some specifics ..which I don't think you can!
    Go talk to the former W. Golf coach... go talk to some assistants about how he tries to interject things at practice of other sports.
    The problem with hiring a mildly successful former coach as an AD is they think they know more than the people they hire
    Name one sport we are better at right now since Cohen took over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    Go talk to the former W. Golf coach... go talk to some assistants about how he tries to interject things at practice of other sports.
    The problem with hiring a mildly successful former coach as an AD is they think they know more than the people they hire
    Name one sport we are better at right now since Cohen took over.
    Volleyball and soccer
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Volleyball and soccer
    Name one sport that we give a crap about! Haha

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