Sidney. Cooks

[HoopsDawg]

We were losing A LOT more due to Vic's salary and the fact that we went to 2 straight Final 4's. If I remember correctly the first one cost the school around 4 million. Again, it's good if they're successful, but don't lose your ass paying a coach 7 figures annually for a sport that loses 7 figures annually. You don't have to go crazy spending either. It's obvious we overpaid Penson. We should've given her 1.2 for 4 with bonuses built in to get it to 500K max. If she succeeds you can renegotiate, but you don't lose your ass if she sucks

excellent points.

[maroonmania]

excellent points.

I don't understand why more schools don't pay a chunk of their compensation to their coaches based on accomplishment in every sport. If I make the same thing in football winning a National Championship as I do when my team misses a bowl game it just seems like something is wrong with that. As far as I know, Leach will make his 5 million/year no matter what kind of product he puts on the football field. But, I guess at least he has a track record. These folks like NMP that have never been a HC at a top level school should have to prove something before getting a high level salary. But every coach should have to prove something on the field to earn some incentive pay. I don't think any school minds paying the going rate or more for a coach that produces even in a sport that doesn't make money.

[maroonmania]

We were losing A LOT more due to Vic's salary and the fact that we went to 2 straight Final 4's. If I remember correctly the first one cost the school around 4 million. Again, it's good if they're successful, but don't lose your ass paying a coach 7 figures annually for a sport that loses 7 figures annually. You don't have to go crazy spending either. It's obvious we overpaid Penson. We should've given her 1.2 for 4 with bonuses built in to get it to 500K max. If she succeeds you can renegotiate, but you don't lose your ass if she sucks

Well, there are a pretty good amount of eyes on the NCAAW basketball tournament around the country. Its hard to put a price on the publicity gained for the school in snapping UCONN's winning streak and playing for 2 National Titles.

[HoopsDawg]

I don't understand why more schools don't pay a chunk of their compensation to their coaches based on accomplishment in every sport. If I make the same thing in football winning a National Championship as I do when my team misses a bowl game it just seems like something is wrong with that. As far as I know, Leach will make his 5 million/year no matter what kind of product he puts on the football field. But, I guess at least he has a track record. These folks like NMP that have never been a HC at a top level school should have to prove something before getting a high level salary. But every coach should have to prove something on the field to earn some incentive pay. I don't think any school minds paying the going rate or more for a coach that produces even in a sport that doesn't make money.

We had to pay Leach big bucks to get him. NMP was making 250K a year at ODU so we could have doubled her salary but Cohen went above and beyond that. I guess he was feeling the pressure of his other failed hires so he over paid.

[maroonmania]

We had to pay Leach big bucks to get him. NMP was making 250K a year at ODU so we could have doubled her salary but Cohen went above and beyond that. I guess he was feeling the pressure of his other failed hires so he over paid.

Its really more the principle of the thing. Heck, take Leach out of it. Maybe he wouldn't have accepted an incentive based contract to make the move from WSU. But look at Mullen, we gave him his first D1 college HC job and a far as I know, he never had anything incentive based in his pay. If he did I was not aware of it.

[HoopsDawg]

Its really more the principle of the thing. Heck, take Leach out of it. Maybe he wouldn't have accepted an incentive based contract to make the move from WSU. But look at Mullen, we gave him his first D1 college HC job and a far as I know, he never had anything incentive based in his pay. If he did I was not aware of it.

That's the nature of the beast and it doesn't bother me too bad. What bothers me is when we bid against ourselves like we did with NMP and when we paid Rick Ray 1 million a year. Like Ray wouldn't have taken the job for 300K.

[Matt3467]

Don't know who that is. Thought at first this was a post about Renardo Sidney.

[bulldawg28]

I would love to see some examples.
I forgot Saban sent out encouragement tweets to Vols nation and Pruitt after his 1st season while he was preparing for the CFP..***

There I didn?t forget the asterisks

Coaches sending encouragement to others happens publicly and behind closed doors. And what is it really about?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well, there are a pretty good amount of eyes on the NCAAW basketball tournament around the country. Its hard to put a price on the publicity gained for the school in snapping UCONN's winning streak and playing for 2 National Titles.

It's actually very easy. Even after that we still lost money. Publicity doesn't make up the deficit. It is what it is. I'm not sitting here saying cut the sport, I just think we need to be a bit more wise in spending for a non revenue sport. Paying Schaefer what we were was a bit of a stretch for a coach who'd never won a national championship. All the other coaches making what he made had multiple championships.

[maroonmania]

It's actually very easy. Even after that we still lost money. Publicity doesn't make up the deficit. It is what it is. I'm not sitting here saying cut the sport, I just think we need to be a bit more wise in spending for a non revenue sport. Paying Schaefer what we were was a bit of a stretch for a coach who'd never won a national championship. All the other coaches making what he made had multiple championships.

If it was that easy nobody would ever spend any money on marketing or advertising. You can't judge the impact to the entire school based on what specifically the women's program did or didn't lose financially that year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If it was that easy nobody would ever spend any money on marketing or advertising. You can't judge the impact to the entire school based on what specifically the women's program did or didn't lose financially that year.

I've never understood why we do it for ANY non revenue sport. It's a money pit. All of that needs to be put towards men's basketball and football. I just really don't know what financial impact that women's basketball has on the school at large. I don't see any student deciding where they want to go based on women's basketball. Now the Left Field Lounge and DWS....that does sway potential students. Beating UCONN was cool, and we got 48 hours of good press. But honestly, a banana had a longer run in the headlines and provided more free publicity than the UCONN win.

[WinningIsRelentless]

I've never understood why we do it for ANY non revenue sport. It's a money pit. All of that needs to be put towards men's basketball and football. I just really don't know what financial impact that women's basketball has on the school at large. I don't see any student deciding where they want to go based on women's basketball. Now the Left Field Lounge and DWS....that does sway potential students. Beating UCONN was cool, and we got 48 hours of good press. But honestly, a banana had a longer run in the headlines and provided more free publicity than the UCONN win.

Because you would have a Title IX lawsuit so quick your head would spin.

[Santiago]

Coaches sending encouragement to others happens publicly and behind closed doors. And what is it really about?

Is there an example of public support from one SEC coach to another? If it happens all the time.
Can someone pull up those supporting tweets that Staley used to send to Vic ? ***

[RocketDawg]

We were losing A LOT more due to Vic's salary and the fact that we went to 2 straight Final 4's. If I remember correctly the first one cost the school around 4 million. Again, it's good if they're successful, but don't lose your ass paying a coach 7 figures annually for a sport that loses 7 figures annually. You don't have to go crazy spending either. It's obvious we overpaid Penson. We should've given her 1.2 for 4 with bonuses built in to get it to 500K max. If she succeeds you can renegotiate, but you don't lose your ass if she sucks

If that's the case, it could be the reason we turned down the NIT - expensive, probably would have lost the first game, and nobody would be watching it anyway. But primarily the expense. It's not been a good year money-wise for the athletic department.