Rotation set - Kinda surprised

[Coach34]

Fristoe is got to be your Sunday guy. If it was going to be Harding- he would have already been throwing on Sundays.

Our midweeks are pretty weak coming up- I'd get him some starts there and have Harding ready to help on Sundays

[HoopsDawg]

Fristoe is got to be your Sunday guy. If it was going to be Harding- he would have already been throwing on Sundays.

Our midweeks are pretty weak coming up- I'd get him some starts there and have Harding ready to help on Sundays

Not necessarily true. We had some big midweek games and needed Harding. Harding pitched a great game against USM and UL. Got the job done against Samford. And gave up 0 Earned Runs in his start vs TCU. Also, Lemonis said our guys couldn't hit him in the fall or spring.

Also, the coaches planned on Cerantola being in the weekend rotation so Harding wasn't going to start over Bednar or Mac. Now that Cerantola is going to be removed, that spot is open. I'm fine with Fristoe getting the start on Sundays but we will need Harding to be ready to go as a bridge to Stennett.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Not necessarily true. We had some big midweek games and needed Harding. Harding pitched a great game against USM and UL. Got the job done against Samford. And gave up 0 Earned Runs in his start vs TCU. Also, Lemonis said our guys couldn't hit him in the fall or spring.

Also, the coaches planned on Cerantola being in the weekend rotation so Harding wasn't going to start over Bednar or Mac. Now that Cerantola is going to be removed, that spot is open. I'm fine with Fristoe getting the start on Sundays but we will need Harding to be ready to go as a bridge to Stennett.

I think you Start Harding - he's 22 years old and has been a flag ship starter in two JC seasons. Already two seasons with 80+ innings.

I think you manage Fristoe (20) along so you still have a preserved freshman in May and June. Today was a big day for him and he kept MSU in the game. Nobody was hitting and no runs were scored, so that's that, not his fault.

All the remaining mid-week starts are EC if we must, but I think Tullar and C Smith need a look. If MSU were a minor league club, it would be required to start EC, even with a 25.00 ERA. But to win games in the next 3 months, that's not MSU's role. But, I think EC would be lights out in Midweek. Optimist I am.

[Todd4State]

I think you Start Harding - he's 22 years old and has been a flag ship starter in two JC seasons. Already two seasons with 80+ innings.

I think you manage Fristoe (20) along so you still have a preserved freshman in May and June. Today was a big day for him and he kept MSU in the game. Nobody was hitting and no runs were scored, so that's that, not his fault.

All the remaining mid-week starts are EC if we must, but I think Tullar and C Smith need a look. If MSU were a minor league club, it would be required to start EC, even with a 25.00 ERA. But to win games in the next 3 months, that's not MSU's role. But, I think EC would be lights out in Midweek. Optimist I am.

If we were a minor league club Cerentola would be getting demoted.

[Hambone]

Hell, demoted he would have been traded

[Rex54]

If we were a minor league club Cerentola would be getting demoted.

No he wouldn't.

[The Federalist Engineer]

If we were a minor league club Cerentola would be getting demoted.

Maybe so. I you havent already. Read “ball player” by Chipper Jones. The book is almost too good. Never stops entertaining...one fascinating passage:

Chip was struggling to switch hit. He decided he could help the rookie-ball team win by only hitting right. The rookie-ball manager said “ok”.

Bobby Cox found out, he fired the Manager immediately. Chip felt bad for the manger but learned that development was his job in the minors, they did not care about his stats.

Another snippet ... before the MLB Draft, the head of scouting took Bobby Cox to watch Chip play and the scout was about to point him out. Bobby said, “if he is the best player in America, then you don’t need to point him out”.

[PMDawg]

I don't trust Cerentola vs. anyone. Not even our weak non-conference games from here on out. If you can't throw strikes, anyone can beat you. All you have to do is stand there and wait for him to walk you. Chances are, he will walk in a run before he gets 3 outs if no batter ever swings at a single pitch. It's kind of pathetic to have made it this far in your career and still not be able to just throw strikes. He's been pitching to live competition for at least 12 or 13 years now. Fundamental #1 - throw it over the plate. I'm not trying to bash the guy, it's just kind of mystifying at this point. It defies logic.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don't trust Cerentola vs. anyone. Not even our weak non-conference games from here on out. If you can't throw strikes, anyone can beat you. All you have to do is stand there and wait for him to walk you. Chances are, he will walk in a run before he gets 3 outs if no batter ever swings at a single pitch. It's kind of pathetic to have made it this far in your career and still not be able to just throw strikes. He's been pitching to live competition for at least 12 or 13 years now. Fundamental #1 - throw it over the plate. I'm not trying to bash the guy, it's just kind of mystifying at this point. It defies logic.

Agreed. I just don't think right now he has the mentality to be a starter. No matter if it's conference or non conference. Now that could change and he could prove me wrong, but it's been 3 years and I can count on one hand the number of good starts he's had. I've said since day 1 he's Rick Vaughan before the glasses and everything he's done to this point has proven me right. I hope he figures it out though. That type of velocity is special.

[Todd4State]

No he wouldn't.

Even though the minors is about development they're not going to let a player fail over and over and over again. You have to perform at some point.

[Rex54]

Even though the minors is about development they're not going to let a player fail over and over and over again. You have to perform at some point.

They wouldn't demote his upside after a couple of starts. Your statement was factually incorrect.

[Todd4State]

They wouldn't demote his upside after a couple of starts. Your statement was factually incorrect.

It happens literally every week in the minors. It's relative because college has a much shorter season than the minors. The minors is all about development but again you have to as a player show improvement at some point and show that you're making progress. Cerentola throwing balls to the backstop is not showing progress. They're not going to let a guy just fail over and over without showing improvement. They'll simply promote someone from a lower level that has shown improvement and demote the guy that isn't ready. It's damaging at some point to just keep letting a player fail.

[The Federalist Engineer]

It happens literally every week in the minors. It's relative because college has a much shorter season than the minors. The minors is all about development but again you have to as a player show improvement at some point and show that you're making progress. Cerentola throwing balls to the backstop is not showing progress. They're not going to let a guy just fail over and over without showing improvement. They'll simply promote someone from a lower level that has shown improvement and demote the guy that isn't ready. It's damaging at some point to just keep letting a player fail.

If we are saying EC is not pitching Sunday as a demotion, I fully agree, Ive been in the Harding camp since Texas Tech last year. Fristoe is SEC ready too, proved it last week. Cade Smith, is also ready by the opinions of cats that know baseball

EC should have been pitching SWAC until he stopped beaning people. Then pitching SEC very situationally with nobody having a book on him. Today, all the SEC teams will tell hitters to dial-in for a straight hard pitch you can mash, otherwise walk.