Howland continues his path at Stands level- makes NIT

[Coach34]

Next season hinges on Stewart returning. If he bolts- that will be a big blow.

[Bulldog1]

Saw where Stewart is ranked #32 in latest nba mock draft. Still need to find a good 3 pt shooter even if he comes back.

Analytics say we were the 3rd worst offense in sec play this season.

[msstate7]

Saw where Stewart is ranked #32 in latest nba mock draft. Still need to find a good 3 pt shooter even if he comes back.

Analytics say we were the 3rd worst offense in sec play this season.

I'd say most of that is TOs and FT shooting. I expect both to get better with another year of experience. Losing Stewart would be a huge blow though

[Commercecomet24]

I?m happy our guys are playing, rather play in NIT than be sitting home.

Absolutely. Always better to be playing than watching.

[Bulldog1]

I'd say most of that is TOs and FT shooting. I expect both to get better with another year of experience. Losing Stewart would be a huge blow though

Yes, we ranked #314 in offensive t.o. % and #327 in ft %. That is ridiculous.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Howland should get 1 more year to see what happens, but he can?t afford any of the following: No bad non conference losses and at least 11-7 most likely 12-6 in SEC play. Then make the NCAA tournament and win the first round. As long as he does those 3 things, he will be good to come back the next year and then he will be re evaluated based on what is returning. Yes, I understand that is Stansbury level, but doing this prior to retirement would help us hire a quality coach

[msstate7]

Howland should get 1 more year to see what happens, but he can?t afford any of the following: No bad non conference losses and at least 11-7 most likely 12-6 in SEC play. Then make the NCAA tournament and win the first round. As long as he does those 3 things, he will be good to come back the next year and then he will be re evaluated based on what is returning. Yes, I understand that is Stansbury level, but doing this prior to retirement would help us hire a quality coach

So if we made the tourney and we lost 1st round, you'd fire him? That's ridiculous. Expecting tourney next season is fair though.

[OLJWales]

We shoulda hired Kermit.

[R2Dawg]

We can?t avoid making a move if it?s needed just because we?re afraid Cohen will screw it up. He ain?t going nowhere for a while & Howland has to make the NCAAT next season to get another season after next. We can?t just bring him back knowing we?re going to maintain mediocrity just because we don?t want Cohen making a hire.

I would have thought different before JC hired Moorhead and NMP but now, I don't want him to hire another coach. Jury still out on ML. He could be 1-4 or 2-4 at best. Batting .500 is good in baseball so I guess JC thinks he is leading the pack in AD performance.

You don't have to look far to see it can get a lot worse - remember after Stans left? At least we are relevant instead of doormat. I don't want to nuke MBB again or football or baseball or any sport MSU is doing well in - WBB.

[BrunswickDawg]

We shoulda hired Kermit.

Kermit wouldn't have us in any better position. He's 26-28 in SEC play over 3 seasons now. His top 4 scorers this year are all upperclassmen and still only went 16-11 (10-8).
Don't get me wrong, I like Kermit and we should have hired him over Rick Ray - but Kermit ain't gonna move the needle on where the program is currently.

[basedog]

Kermit wouldn't have us in any better position. He's 26-28 in SEC play over 3 seasons now. His top 4 scorers this year are all upperclassmen and still only went 16-11 (10-8).
Don't get me wrong, I like Kermit and we should have hired him over Rick Ray - but Kermit ain't gonna move the needle on where the program is currently.

Correct.

[OLJWales]

Kermit wouldn't have us in any better position. He's 26-28 in SEC play over 3 seasons now. His top 4 scorers this year are all upperclassmen and still only went 16-11 (10-8).
Don't get me wrong, I like Kermit and we should have hired him over Rick Ray - but Kermit ain't gonna move the needle on where the program is currently.

I disagree and I don't like admitting it. Howland's only advantage over Kermit is Crootin' Swag. Kermit is Light's Out Better on the Court. He proved it this year by doing better than Howland's Dogs with Less Talent Overall. And that SUCKS, but True. So Cohen had an option of Kermit / Ray? Great, now I'm pissed off all over again. That should be a fireable offense. No excuse for an AD to be allowed to Fornicate Up that bad and still keep a job.

[msstate7]

I disagree and I don't like admitting it. Howland's only advantage over Kermit is Crootin' Swag. Kermit is Light's Out Better on the Court. He proved it this year by doing better than Howland's Dogs with Less Talent Overall. And that SUCKS, but True.

They're both in the NIT and we got there replacing what 80% of our scoring from last year

[OLJWales]

They're both in the NIT and we got there replacing what 80% of our scoring from last year

Thanks for that 7, makes sense too. I just think Kermit's doing a much better job based on overall talent.

[BrunswickDawg]

I disagree and I don't like admitting it. Howland's only advantage over Kermit is Crootin' Swag. Kermit is Light's Out Better on the Court. He proved it this year by doing better than Howland's Dogs with Less Talent Overall. And that SUCKS, but True. So Cohen had an option of Kermit / Ray? Great, now I'm pissed off all over again. That should be a fireable offense. No excuse for an AD to be allowed to Fornicate Up that bad and still keep a job.

Stricklin hired Ray not Cohen.

About that talent - Here are the top 6 scorers for each team

Stewart (.94 4*) Molinar (.89 3*) T. Smith (not rated) Ado (.92 4*) D Smith (.98 4*) Johnson (.83 3*)
Shuler (.93 4*) Joiner(Not rated) White(.97 4*) Buffen (.88 3*) Rodriguiez (.89 3*) Murrell (.98 4*)

There is almost no difference in MSU and OM

[OLJWales]

Stricklin hired Ray not Cohen.

About that talent - Here are the top 6 scorers for each team

Stewart (.94 4*) Molinar (.89 3*) T. Smith (not rated) Ado (.92 4*) D Smith (.98 4*) Johnson (.83 3*)
Shuler (.93 4*) Joiner(Not rated) White(.97 4*) Buffen (.88 3*) Rodriguiez (.89 3*) Murrell (.98 4*)

There is almost no difference in MSU and OM

thanks for that. I was guessing I guess. FK Stricklin'; so how do the HS Resume's compare between us and the Shit up North? I'm thinking that our guys are about 1.375% higher in Star Power.

[BiscuitEater]

Anyway- pointing out facts about Stands is not hatred. It?s simply informing to spread knowledge

Well ATFQ ... Did Stans 17 your wife, sister, girlfriend, you or your mom? Your hatred is way beyond 'normal.'

[BiscuitEater]

We shoulda hired Kermit.

I lived through Kermit's dad. I don't want ANY part of Jr.

[Bulldog1]

Howland is an elite recruiter but an average floor coach... Just like someone else.

[thf24]

I disagree and I don't like admitting it. Howland's only advantage over Kermit is Crootin' Swag. Kermit is Light's Out Better on the Court. He proved it this year by doing better than Howland's Dogs with Less Talent Overall. And that SUCKS, but True. So Cohen had an option of Kermit / Ray? Great, now I'm pissed off all over again. That should be a fireable offense. No excuse for an AD to be allowed to Fornicate Up that bad and still keep a job.

I'd wait until a few more years to see what Kermit does with teams of only players he recruited.

Jimmies and Joes.