WBB question for the board

[parabrave]

do you think that Johnnie should've been offered the job??

[msstate7]

Who did johnnie vote for last November? This is a joke... please don't answer.

At this point, I'd say yeah. Not sure Johnnie is, but this season has been pretty disastrous, so it couldn't be much worse.

[parabrave]

KO mentioned that she came in third in the interview process. Two questions i have for Cohen are 1. Do you look at the whole body of work of a candidate and secondly did you ever watch Johnnie actions during and after the game. She was always involved with game decisions, the players seemed to respect her and reacted positively to her. It always seemed to me that Vic put her in the limelight she always did postgame interviews on TV and she did outstanding when in the Limelight. Did Vic endorse her for the Job and did she want it???

[R2Dawg]

KO mentioned that she came in third in the interview process. Two questions i have for Cohen are 1. Do you look at the whole body of work of a candidate and secondly did you ever watch Johnnie actions during and after the game. She was always involved with game decisions, the players seemed to respect her and reacted positively to her. It always seemed to me that Vic put her in the limelight she always did postgame interviews on TV and she did outstanding when in the Limelight. Did Vic endorse her for the Job and did she want it???

Cohen saw that NMP played for Pat Summit and got all excited about that and of course coached with Dawn Staley. My question for Cohen is did you ask Vic who he would recommend and what was his answer?

[parabrave]

Cohen saw that NMP played for Pat Summit and got all excited about that and of course coached with Dawn Staley. My question for Cohen is did you ask Vic who he would recommend and what was his answer?

Mine too I want to know did he ask Vic or was he already too busy with UT to even give a recommendation. Remember "Vontae Mack no matter what"

[BiscuitEater]

KO mentioned that she came in third in the interview process. Two questions i have for Cohen are 1. Do you look at the whole body of work of a candidate and secondly did you ever watch Johnnie actions during and after the game. She was always involved with game decisions, the players seemed to respect her and reacted positively to her. It always seemed to me that Vic put her in the limelight she always did postgame interviews on TV and she did outstanding when in the Limelight. Did Vic endorse her for the Job and did she want it???

You do realize you put Cohen in a 'no win' position. He hired a 'proven' Div 1 Head Coach with a great coaching background, SEC playing and coaching experience and fantastic resume'. If he had hired an unproven Assistant with zero 'Head Coaching' experience, many would have giving him unmitigated hell!

Sometimes, coaches just don't work out. To 'Monday morning QB' this decision is idiotic.

[parabrave]

You do realize you put Cohen in a 'no win' position. He hired a 'proven' Div 1 Head Coach with a great coaching background, SEC playing and coaching experience and fantastic resume'. If he had hired an unproven Assistant with zero 'Head Coaching' experience, many would have giving him unmitigated hell!

Sometimes, coaches just don't work out. To 'Monday morning QB' this decision is idiotic.

Dan Mullen and Sean Payton approve.

[R2Dawg]

You do realize you put Cohen in a 'no win' position. He hired a 'proven' Div 1 Head Coach with a great coaching background, SEC playing and coaching experience and fantastic resume'. If he had hired an unproven Assistant with zero 'Head Coaching' experience, many would have giving him unmitigated hell!

Sometimes, coaches just don't work out. To 'Monday morning QB' this decision is idiotic.

Sorry, 3 years HC experience at Old Dominion ain't proven. Just because you sat on bench with Dawn Staley doesn't make you a great coach. Her resume had little leadership at HC level.

I don't know how any other coach would have worked out but about like hiring Joe Moorhead. JC makes same mistake twice. Time will tell on Leach but at least he learned to get a guy that has won as HC before. Can't blame him for Leach hire on that front, maybe for other reasons but not experience.

[BiscuitEater]

Sorry, 3 years HC experience at Old Dominion ain't proven. Just because you sat on bench with Dawn Staley doesn't make you a great coach. Her resume had little leadership at HC level.

So, you think Johnnie Harris, 8 years as an ASSISTANT COACH is more 'proven?' Read the OP. OP asking about hiring Johnnie, an 'unproven assistant.


Some assistant coach hires 'work' and some don't! Mullen worked, Moorhead didn't.


She improved her record at OD every year. Do you understand the WBB history of OD?


Statistics overview
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Old Dominion Lady Monarchs (Conference USA) (2017–2020)

2017–18 Old Dominion 8–23 6–10 12th
2018–19 Old Dominion 21–10 10–6 5th WNIT First Round
2019–20 Old Dominion 24–6 14–4 2nd NCAA canceled due to coronavirus pandemic

[parabrave]

So, you think Johnnie Harris, 8 years as an ASSISTANT COACH is more 'proven?' Read the OP. OP asking about hiring Johnnie, an 'unproven assistant.


Some assistant coach hires 'work' and some don't! Mullen worked, Moorhead didn't.


She improved her record at OD every year. Do you understand the WBB history of OD?


Statistics overview
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Old Dominion Lady Monarchs (Conference USA) (2017–2020)

2017–18 Old Dominion 8–23 6–10 12th
2018–19 Old Dominion 21–10 10–6 5th WNIT First Round
2019–20 Old Dominion 24–6 14–4 2nd NCAA canceled due to coronavirus pandemic

Yep the original Question was Should Johnnie been offered the Job. In another thread I wondered if she was even interviewed and was told she came in 3rd. It was in no way meant to cast anything disparaging in the current coaches direction. Personally I was always impressed with the job that Johnnie did during the game and how the players reacted to her coaching during the game.

[R2Dawg]

So, you think Johnnie Harris, 8 years as an ASSISTANT COACH is more 'proven?' Read the OP. OP asking about hiring Johnnie, an 'unproven assistant.


Some assistant coach hires 'work' and some don't! Mullen worked, Moorhead didn't.


She improved her record at OD every year. Do you understand the WBB history of OD?


Statistics overview
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Old Dominion Lady Monarchs (Conference USA) (2017–2020)

2017–18 Old Dominion 8–23 6–10 12th
2018–19 Old Dominion 21–10 10–6 5th WNIT First Round
2019–20 Old Dominion 24–6 14–4 2nd NCAA canceled due to coronavirus pandemic

You ain't read my posts. I have never said JH is a proven coach. The original post was several pages ago, keep up with the topic if you are gonna go attack mode.

Apples and oranges comparing Mullen to NMP. Do you understand the state of MSU WBB when she was hired? We were #2 in country in wins the past 4 years only a win or two behind Uconn.

Hiring an unproven HC for a mediocre program like our football vs a national brand is no comparison. Take that somewhere else.

[KOdawg1]

You do realize you put Cohen in a 'no win' position. He hired a 'proven' Div 1 Head Coach with a great coaching background, SEC playing and coaching experience and fantastic resume'. If he had hired an unproven Assistant with zero 'Head Coaching' experience, many would have giving him unmitigated hell!

Sometimes, coaches just don't work out. To 'Monday morning QB' this decision is idiotic.

He wouldn't have gotten hell for hiring a long-time Vic assistant that half the fanbase (and players) wanted anyway.

On paper, he made the correct hire, but Moorhead was the correct hire on paper too, and we're seeing it again.

[R2Dawg]

Yeah from this vantage point yes hire her. But honestly, we should have been able to hire a more proven coach wanting to up their status. NMP was not proven HC. Proven player, yes but that was it.

[Cooterpoot]

I didn't care either way. The only thing that gave me pause with Nikki was the fact TN wouldn't touch her. But we made a bad hire.

[R2Dawg]

I didn't care either way. The only thing that gave me pause with Nikki was the fact TN wouldn't touch her. But we made a bad hire.

UT learned that just because they played for Pat Summit didn't mean they would win being HC.

[parabrave]

I didn't care either way. The only thing that gave me pause with Nikki was the fact TN wouldn't touch her. But we made a bad hire.

It seems Cohen wanted to make a PR "splash" hire. I never forget when Bowden left Tulane for Clemson RR was the OC at Tulane and expected to be named HC. He even went out and bought a green jacket. Well the new AD hired someone else. Destroyed a up and coming program that Bowden and RR had built. Needless to say she didn't last long.

[R2Dawg]

It seems Cohen wanted to make a PR "splash" hire. I never forget when Bowden left Tulane for Clemson RR was the OC at Tulane and expected to be named HC. He even went out and bought a green jacket. Well the new AD hired someone else. Destroyed a up and coming program that Bowden and RR had built. Needless to say she didn't last long.

Yep, Cohen got his splash alright but more like a bellyflop. He'll get some headlines but not the ones he is looking for.

[Homedawg]

do you think that Johnnie should've been offered the job??

NO!.....THAT would have been the easy way out and JC would have been lazy. No way I would have hired her. ZEro.

[KOdawg1]

Johnnie would've been better than NMP, but it's hard to say how much better. The only coach that we were on that would've come close to Vic is Jeff Walz but he turned us down.

[parabrave]

Johnnie would've been better than NMP, but it's hard to say how much better. The only coach that we were on that would've come close to Vic is Jeff Walz but he turned us down.

It always seemed that Vic was grooming Johnnie for a HC position. I know most HC groom their protegees but Vic was always making sure that Johnnie was getting alot of the Limelight/