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Football and baseball should be priority for allocation of funds. Honestly, nobody really gives a shit about WBB. It was great when Vic was here but it's time to move on. Trying to find the equivalent of Nick Saban in women's BB is just wasting money. Put that money toward Leach keeping his asst. coaches.
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Vic ain't coming back. Too much stuff off the court, not related to the AD. Not gonna expound upon that any further, but let's just say off the court family stuff.
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Originally Posted by
trob115
Vic ain't coming back. Too much stuff off the court, not related to the AD. Not gonna expound upon that any further, but let's just say off the court family stuff.
Why does everyone want to feel as if they are elite and in the know? ?I?m not gonna expound on it any further....?. Oh shut up and quit acting like you have some elite knowledge you are going to dangle in the face of the peasants and they are going to beg you for info. That?s pathetic.
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Originally Posted by
Medic601
Why does everyone want to feel as if they are elite and in the know? ?I?m not gonna expound on it any further....?. Oh shut up and quit acting like you have some elite knowledge you are going to dangle in the face of the peasants and they are going to beg you for info. That?s pathetic.
You want that info bad don't you?
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Originally Posted by
Medic601
Why does everyone want to feel as if they are elite and in the know? ?I?m not gonna expound on it any further....?. Oh shut up and quit acting like you have some elite knowledge you are going to dangle in the face of the peasants and they are going to beg you for info. That?s pathetic.
This is correct.
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It's truly unbelievable we have MSU fans that think like this. Vic left, he's gone, get over it.
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Originally Posted by
KentuckyDawg13
It's truly unbelievable we have MSU fans that think like this. Vic left, he's gone, get over it.
You do realize this is MSU fan message board? Likely the dumbest message board/social media posters in all of college athletics. We have fans who want to bring back Stanz and routinely rip current/former athletes and Starkville businesses to shreds.
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Originally Posted by
trob115
Vic ain't coming back. Too much stuff off the court, not related to the AD. Not gonna expound upon that any further, but let's just say off the court family stuff.
I call BS on this... why would Texas take a chance with the same family stuff?
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Originally Posted by
Leeshouldveflanked
I call BS on this... why would Texas take a chance with the same family stuff?
Home is where the heart is....
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Originally Posted by
Leeshouldveflanked
I call BS on this... why would Texas take a chance with the same family stuff?
Because what was going on was a private matter. Nothing illegal by Vic or against NCAA rules. Literally off the court family issues.
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Originally Posted by
trob115
Because what was going on was a private matter. Nothing illegal by Vic or against NCAA rules. Literally off the court family issues.
This is 100% correct. Cohen and him had a couple issues on assistants but we would've worked through that. Cohen and Mississippi State had nothing to do with why Vic ultimately left. But it was good cover.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
This is 100% correct. Cohen and him had a couple issues on assistants but we would've worked through that. Cohen and Mississippi State had nothing to do with why Vic ultimately left. But it was good cover.
This!!!! Vic just used it to not look like the bad guy leaving. Vic wanted to be back in Texas.
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Originally Posted by
trob115
Because what was going on was a private matter. Nothing illegal by Vic or against NCAA rules. Literally off the court family issues.
What is family issues in TX? I have an educated guess.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
If we “have the money” then we need to reallocate it so we don’t have 3 people doing the same job in football that Alabama has 15 people doing. Do you really not realize that we lose money on women’s basketball? Dumping money into a sport that no one gives a shit about is ridiculously stupid. It was fine to offer Vic a large contract to stay since he had built it into a giant and it gave a lot of good publicity to the school but we don’t need to go buy out a coach and take money away from sports that matter to fans just to try and recapture some lucky genie in a bottle shit in a sport that loses money even when they are elite. The only sports that make money at MSU are football, baseball, and men’s basketball. Those are the only sports we should be breaking the bank to try and get hires right. The minute we buy out a coach for losing in women’s basketball or any other non revenue producing sport is the minute we need a new AD.
https://247sports.com/college/missis...get-139822486/
We could put every extra cent and every other sports budget into football and it wouldn't change a thing.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
We could put every extra cent and every other sports budget into football and it wouldn't change a thing.
Absolutely, can't believe fans are so willing to just throw away a program we were competing for national championships in. For football we play for a nice bowl destination and in men's BB we play for a ticket to the NCAA tournament. That's it, nothing more nothing less and I don't really see that changing much no matter what we do.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Absolutely, can't believe fans are so willing to just throw away a program we were competing for national championships in. For football we play for a nice bowl destination and in men's BB we play for a ticket to the NCAA tournament. That's it, nothing more nothing less and I don't really see that changing much no matter what we do.
Most people don’t care about watching a sport where 90 % of intramural teams in the Sanderson center could Beat the national champion in a pickup game. That’s why our elite team still costed our school money. People don’t pay to watch mediocre athletes, even if those mediocre athletes are a lot better than the athletes they are competing against.
Last edited by Jarius; 02-24-2021 at 02:56 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
Most people don’t care about watching a sport where 90 % of intramural teams in the Sanderson center could Beat the national champion in a pickup game. That’s why our elite team still costed our school money. People don’t pay to watch mediocre athletes, even if those mediocre athletes are a lot better than the athletes they are competing against.
I don't know the exact numbers but I would assume baseball cost us money as well. If it doesn't its only because the NCAA doesn't allow hardly any baseball scholarships so we have a lot of players footing their own bill to play. But I will agree I only care about WBB if its something we can compete in nationally. If we are going to be run of the mill then I could not care less about it. I still don't see us making much headway in football because its going to be so hard just to break into the top half of the SEC and stay there. We can make ground up nationally but when you are still in the back half of your own conference I'm not sure what good that does you.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
I don't know the exact numbers but I would assume baseball cost us money as well. If it doesn't its only because the NCAA doesn't allow hardly any baseball scholarships so we have a lot of players footing their own bill to play. But I will agree I only care about WBB if its something we can compete in nationally. If we are going to be run of the mill then I could not care less about it. I still don't see us making much headway in football because its going to be so hard just to break into the top half of the SEC and stay there. We can make ground up nationally but when you are still in the back half of your own conference I'm not sure what good that does you.
I posted an article in this thread on the first page that shows the only 2 sports that make us money are baseball and football. Men’s basketball could if they were good so we need to continue to invest in that. I just believe we need to invest everything we can into the sports that the most people care about and the most people care about are sports that make the school money. Going off and spending an extra million dollars to bribe our old coach back to a sport that loses money when they play in multiple national championships in a few years time is just not smart or fair to the fans who have made their voice heard with their pocket books that these sports are what they truly care about.
Last edited by Jarius; 02-24-2021 at 03:21 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
We could put every extra cent and every other sports budget into football and it wouldn't change a thing.
Bull. There comes a point to where you get diminishing returns on having money. We aren’t there yet, but the big time schools are there. We will eventually start making up ground on them because there is only so many things you can do when you update everything and hire all of you off field people. If we put an extra couple of million a year into football on top of the natural growth we get from sec contract money each year we would make up some ground. We will never make up enough ground to turn into an elite program but we can get closer with more money.
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Irritating part is I bet we could have hired Johnnie Harris as HC for less money than what we are paying NMP and still would have probably gotten much better results.
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