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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    Correct Jarius, Correct. Plus, we better not lose Lemonis, Gautreau, or Foxhall over money.

    We should keep Nikki McCray Penson forever. Especially if she is cheap. Let her tweet like crazy.

    It is sad that Cohen made Vic mad and he left us. No doubt.
    She's not cheap. We're paying her $750K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trob115 View Post
    Vic ain't coming back. Too much stuff off the court, not related to the AD. Not gonna expound upon that any further, but let's just say off the court family stuff.
    Why does everyone want to feel as if they are elite and in the know? ?I?m not gonna expound on it any further....?. Oh shut up and quit acting like you have some elite knowledge you are going to dangle in the face of the peasants and they are going to beg you for info. That?s pathetic.

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    Why do we seem to have so many coaches and a.d.?s with some type of ?issue?? Polk was probably our most loyal successful coach but even he had ?issues? (eccentric and a hard on for the ncaa that affected our program) and tried to burn the house down on his way out the door.

    We seem to have a lot of drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    She's not cheap. We're paying her $750K.
    Yeah paying her about 500K too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Yeah paying her about 500K too much.
    Based on what we are doing with the talent we have this year you are being very generous. I'm thinking probably more like 700K too much.

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    People leave places.

    Vic ain't coming back.
    Last edited by Maroonthirteen; 02-24-2021 at 10:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    She's not cheap. We're paying her $750K.
    Whopper!

    That pay means she was expected to keep us elite in WBB from day one. Our JC got schooled and mauled by the agent of WBB coach? Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlSwearengen View Post
    Why do we seem to have so many coaches and a.d.?s with some type of ?issue?? Polk was probably our most loyal successful coach but even he had ?issues? (eccentric and a hard on for the ncaa that affected our program) and tried to burn the house down on his way out the door.

    We seem to have a lot of drama.
    To paraphrase Matt Wyatt, to make it as a coach at that level you either have to be one of the most phenomenal people to walk the face of the earth or a big-time asshole. Either way, you have to be all about yourself and that implies a good deal of narcissism. Coaches with their outsize egos and their families with fireplace money and everyone bowing and scraping before them...Of course trouble seems to follow them. How could it not? Reminds me of politicians. They get off on it. Granted, some of them are phenomenal human beings and personal foibles aside they are generally really good leaders. People tend to think a lot of people who think a lot of themselves. Ever heard Urban Meyer talk? Even with everything known about him, it's no wonder why players would run through a brick wall for him. And this stuff is almost everywhere. We're just more aware of it here in our own backyard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    That's it, nothing more nothing less and I don't really see that changing much no matter what we do.
    Except, you completely dismissed baseball! MSU plays in the best stadium in the country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    I was there as well. 14 years old. If only I had known then what being a State fan was really like. My dad constantly told me to “not get used to this”. He’s never been more right.
    I was 11 and this was the year I became a state fan and then the 99 Egg Bowl solidified my fan hood. Ended up going 800 miles from home to go to college at state. Best moment for me was still Auburn 2014 and getting that number 1 ranking. People do forget only Bama, Clemson, OSU, LSU and Miss State are the only 5 teams to ever hold a #1 ranking since the CFB rankings came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    Whopper!

    That pay means she was expected to keep us elite in WBB from day one. Our JC got schooled and mauled by the agent of WBB coach? Sad.
    Yes, I think she was expected to keep us elite. The same article that said she was being paid $750K said Vic's first year was $250K (which is still a lot of money if it's truly a non-revenue sport). I think when he left it was something like $1.5M, which was just for fan interest - not paying its own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiscuitEater View Post
    Except, you completely dismissed baseball! MSU plays in the best stadium in the country!
    That post had absolutely no reference to baseball at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medic601 View Post
    Why does everyone want to feel as if they are elite and in the know? ?I?m not gonna expound on it any further....?. Oh shut up and quit acting like you have some elite knowledge you are going to dangle in the face of the peasants and they are going to beg you for info. That?s pathetic.
    You want that info bad don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medic601 View Post
    Why does everyone want to feel as if they are elite and in the know? ?I?m not gonna expound on it any further....?. Oh shut up and quit acting like you have some elite knowledge you are going to dangle in the face of the peasants and they are going to beg you for info. That?s pathetic.
    This is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    Yes, I think she was expected to keep us elite. The same article that said she was being paid $750K said Vic's first year was $250K (which is still a lot of money if it's truly a non-revenue sport). I think when he left it was something like $1.5M, which was just for fan interest - not paying its own way.
    Yep, NMP even said so herself. She didn't have to build anything just keep it going. She has to be in a crisis of belief right now about where she is in her career. Hope she reads the writing on the wall. Make some major changes and reinvent yourself or the end is coming. Bad thing is if she don't, she'll take MSU down with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Yep, NMP even said so herself. She didn't have to build anything just keep it going. She has to be in a crisis of belief right now about where she is in her career. Hope she reads the writing on the wall. Make some major changes and reinvent yourself or the end is coming. Bad thing is if she don't, she'll take MSU down with her.
    Basketball seems like a easy program to wreck. Players can all hit the portal and go. She only has One Mississippi girl.

    Who would not want Vic Shaeffer recruits? Seems they would be coveted by many winning and traditional programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Offer him half a million more than he?s making. Crap even a million more. We have the money. And the money we are going to lose through our women?s bb program is gonna far outweigh an extra 500k a year.
    If we have the money, then why not put it in the best football assistants we can get and possibly make more money on the only sport that really breaks even?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I guess I've already made peace with myself that Kevin Prentiss's punt return against TN in the 98 SECCG is the closest I will ever come to seeing us win a conference title in football in my lifetime.
    I saw that KP punt return also and you are probably right.

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