My response to all this "mediocrity" bullshit

[Coach34]

As a State fan- you dont know what "mediocrity" is

We are a program that had 8 winning seasons- EIGHT- in the 25 years before Mullen. That is 17 losing seasons out of 25. Is that mediocrity? Hell no it isnt. We are just now learning and elevating ourselves to the mediocre level. We have had 16 winning seasons in the last 50 years- that's 34 losing seasons out of 50- and you want to be mad because we have the possibility to slip under 6-6 this year? There are ebbs and flows to coaching tenures, teams dont keep constantly going up. Bear Bryant went 6-5 in year 12- YEAR 12. How can that happen? It was YEAR 12??? Didnt he have time to see that his team was going to have problems? Bobby Bowden went 6-5 in his 6th season at Fla State- with Florida talent. Was his program bottoming out? I could go on and on- but you get the jest of what I'm saying. Mediocrity is a welcome change to the shit this program has been the last 50 years.

Mullen isnt perfect, but other teams make the same mistakes we make. We blocked a FG vs LSU remember? Other teams get punts blocked. Other teams waste time-outs because players get lined up wrong- especially those playing alot of younger players. We have 20 Sophs and Freshmen playing significant amounts of plays on both sides of the ball. Thats why we make mistakes, thats why we are up and down, and that is also why we are getting better as the season plays out. We have a tough one coming Saturday, and then we really get to see where this team is the last 2 weeks of the season.

You have to simply let this season play out and we will see where we are. If we finish 4-8, then obviously a change could possibly happen. I'm just not going to freak out until that happens. Too many of you are freaking out running around going all Chicken Little. As I said, I still think this team beats UPig and OM. But if things dont play out well for us, you Hud-Lovers better have a list that doesnt have Hud on it- because he is looking more and more unlikely at this point. His name is out there for much bigger programs than ours. The ULL people know he is gone after this season- they are even starting to make a list of coaching candidates.

It's just funny watching State fans freak out about being something we have never been for more than 3-4 years in the Modern Era- mediocre. History proves how hard it is just to be mediocre at State. 16 winning seasons in the last 50 years- remember that.

[Behrdawg]

If I weren't so hungover I'd post an applause gif.

[Drugdog]

Spot on.

[cheewgumm]

If you believe that then you can't think he should be in any danger even
If we lose out, right?

[ShotgunDawg]

Agree

[Political Hack]

If you believe that then you can't think he should be in any danger even
If we lose out, right?

pretty sure C34 and I have both said on multiple occasions that the season should play out before making any judgements.

[bluelightstar]

The rising tide that is the SEC has lifted all boats. Are we performing better BECAUSE of Mullen or because we are an SEC team that has now the significant resource advantage over crappy teams that we used to lose to? I am one of those people who think it's not particularly hard to not lose to Bowling Green, UAB, Troy, etc. I don't think "not losing" to those teams is something that should be seen as a resume' enhancer; it should be a given.

My problem with Mullen is twofold: (1) against teams equal to or better than us (I'm not talking about the name of the program, I'm talking the actual team they're fielding that year), I don't expect us to keep it close; and (2) in the few scenarios we do keep it close, I expect head-scratching decisions that leave us with yet another "almost had 'em."

[basedog]

Very good points by 34, the thing is a lot of the post on here are from folks who don't know or care to understand our history!

Let the season play out, firing a coach after three straight winning seasons is retarded, who knows, maybe Mullen gets another job for you anti-haters.

[Will James]

What does history have anything to do with now? Circumstances are VASTLY different.

[Tbonewannabe]

Since records are all that matter why in the hell did we fire Stans? He consistently took us to the post season and was the best in the west. Turnover in players in basketball is a lot faster in basketball than football so he would have a different set of players after the cancers were off the team.

We fired Stans and he was a lot more successful than Mullen.

[Coach34]

What does history have anything to do with now? Circumstances are VASTLY different.

not really

The SEC was always a prime conference
We are still way behind the Big Six in money- A&M makes it the Big Seven now with their 450 million stadium renovation.
Starkville is still a small, out of the way town with no coordinated, centralized nightlife.
Our administration still has too much Good Ol Boy mentality in it

[Coach34]

Since records are all that matter why in the hell did we fire Stans? .

Because the basketball program was becoming a national embarassment

[cheewgumm]

Sorry I was responding to the post above explaining that we've never been any good and should
Not expect anything more, etc etc

Then there were the posts about one down year, Etc...etc.

The logical conclusion is that you wouldn't fire someone after one down year if he has taken us
To all these bowls and brought us up to mediocrity.

So is that what you are saying that if we go 4-8 you want to stay the course?

pretty sure C34 and I have both said on multiple occasions that the season should play out before making any judgements.

[cheewgumm]

" mediocrity" was precisely the case you made to get rid of Stan's.

Because the basketball program was becoming a national embarassment

[bluelightstar]

" mediocrity" was precisely the case you made to get rid of Stan's.

and I do not recall for certain, but I am pretty sure a large part of the argument discounted how he was significantly outperforming our basketball history.

But I do know for sure that part of it was that people were fruitlessly waiting for Stans to do again what he did in 2004. Seems to me that people are fruitlessly waiting for Mullen to do again what he did in 2010, but hey what do I know

[Tbonewannabe]

Because the basketball program was becoming a national embarassment

You were calling for Stan's head before that fight.

[DawgsBite34]

What does history have anything to do with now? Circumstances are VASTLY different.

Agreed. I get sick and tired of hearing this same ol bullshit argument about how our history sucks as an excuse to keep Mullen. That team we put out there yesterday and last week was plenty good enough to win both games, if we would've gave SC Mullen and we get Spurrier we would've blown them out at their place.

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[CadaverDawg]

What a puss thread.

Our history sucks so anything better than pure suck should be celebrated!!1!***

Garbage.

You can do better than this. Just say you're scared to get rid of him...that's better than this trash.

[DawgsBite34]

What a puss thread.

Our history sucks so anything better than pure suck should be celebrated!!1!***

Garbage.

You can do better than this. Just say you're scared to get rid of him...that's better than this trash.

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