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Originally Posted by
HailStateSZN19
You seriously trying to say that the MSU admin is going to be proactive & fire a coach after 1 season? Ain?t gonna happen. Unless there?s things going on behind the scenes that are scandalous that no one knows about, there?s no shot she gets fired after 1 season. Now, she keeps this shit storm of a season going into next year and I?d bet she?s gone after Year 2. But not after 1 season.
Joe Moorhead says hi from the water park.
I don't keep up a lot with basketball men's or women's but things like today plus lack of effort from the team plus players possibly leaving makes me think that Rick Ray McKay being fired is possible.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Joe Moorhead says hi from the water park.
I don't keep up a lot with basketball men's or women's but things like today plus lack of effort from the team plus players possibly leaving makes me think that Rick Ray McKay being fired is possible.
But it's not the same, and you know it and know why.....
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Originally Posted by
trob115
I checked again... Several prominent boosters have voiced concern over Cohen's ability to run the athletic program. One in particular, has enough pull to get Cohen fired on their own. Not to mention there's about 25 of the top 50 donors who are complaining to Keenum directly. Cohen's not making another hire.
This doesn't surprise me. I can only imagine how hot Cohen's seat would be had we lost to Ole Miss yesterday.
The learning curve is just too much for Cohen.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
But it's not the same, and you know it and know why.....
You very well could be right, but that doesnt make the situation right. She deserves to be fired or her pay cut based on her performance.
Same with Moorhead
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
But it's not the same, and you know it and know why.....
If we hire another person with similar um....traits I don't see why it would be an issue.
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I love Cohen but if he allowed politics from anyone or anywhere to determine who he hired or will hire in any sport he is not the man for the job. I understand there are laws in place for this kind of thing but still. Point remains. My problem isnt her race or her beliefs is the fact that we look like garbage and we could care less.
Go woke go broke
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I don't see how non-effort is a deal. I don't follow WBK, but I see she did well at old dominion. How do you win at 1 program and then fail at one that's set up to win?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I don't see how non-effort is a deal. I don't follow WBK, but I see she did well at old dominion. How do you win at 1 program and then fail at one that's set up to win?
Moorhead had the same problem. If they dont respect you it is over
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
But it's not the same, and you know it and know why.....
Just say what you mean its because she is black! jeez
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It?s a good chance she?s gone. One of the biggest things that got JoMo canned after two years is showing up with her.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
You very well could be right, but that doesnt make the situation right. She deserves to be fired or her pay cut based on her performance.
Same with Moorhead
You had it right at fired....
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I don't see how non-effort is a deal. I don't follow WBK, but I see she did well at old dominion. How do you win at 1 program and then fail at one that's set up to win?
Watch for about 2 mins and youll see.
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Originally Posted by
99jc
Just say what you mean its because she is black! jeez
Not solely..... but yeah that's part no question.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Vic can't be happy especially his players that have tanked after he left.
I doubt he really gives a shit.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Joe Moorhead says hi from the water park.
I don't keep up a lot with basketball men's or women's but things like today plus lack of effort from the team plus players possibly leaving makes me think that Rick Ray McKay being fired is possible.
2 different scenarios. Joe had obvious lack of discipline within the locker room and was losing control of the program along with putting a horrible product on the field. And he still got 2 seasons.
NMP is putting a horrible product on the court but she doesn?t have any scandalous issues going on in the locker room or anything that would make the admin fire her after one season. Just ain?t gonna happen. And y?all thinking it can/will happen are just getting your hopes up. She will be here next season and will have next season to right the ship or she?ll be gone. Do I necessarily agree with it? No I don?t. It?s easy to tell she?s in over her head and is tanking the program. But I also know how things work in reality. Unless there?s a scandal or something that embarrasses the University off the court, she ain?t going nowhere.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
I doubt he really gives a shit.
Oh yeah he does. He's. Great coach and all great coaches have huge egos.... his is being stoked w each of our losses. Makes him that much better. I like Vic a lot. But he's smiling
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Oh yeah he does. He's. Great coach and all great coaches have huge egos.... his is being stoked w each of our losses. Makes him that much better. I like Vic a lot. But he's smiling
Hell he should be. We were crap before him and crap after him. I understand it didn't have to be that way, but it is.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Oh yeah he does. He's. Great coach and all great coaches have huge egos.... his is being stoked w each of our losses. Makes him that much better. I like Vic a lot. But he's smiling
Good point
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Not solely..... but yeah that's part no question.
You would think Bracky could come up with something on her....
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
I love Cohen but if he allowed politics from anyone or anywhere to determine who he hired or will hire in any sport he is not the man for the job. I understand there are laws in place for this kind of thing but still. Point remains. My problem isnt her race or her beliefs is the fact that we look like garbage and we could care less.
Go woke go broke
We're assuming that the media is going to perceive it like that. But the win/loss record is very obvious. I don't think Cohen uses politics to determine hires- see Leach. It was like when we fired Croom there was no backlash and any that is there would be short lived.
Originally Posted by
msstate7
I don't see how non-effort is a deal. I don't follow WBK, but I see she did well at old dominion. How do you win at 1 program and then fail at one that's set up to win?
Sometimes people are simply not fits.
Originally Posted by
HailStateSZN19
2 different scenarios. Joe had obvious lack of discipline within the locker room and was losing control of the program along with putting a horrible product on the field. And he still got 2 seasons.
NMP is putting a horrible product on the court but she doesn?t have any scandalous issues going on in the locker room or anything that would make the admin fire her after one season. Just ain?t gonna happen. And y?all thinking it can/will happen are just getting your hopes up. She will be here next season and will have next season to right the ship or she?ll be gone. Do I necessarily agree with it? No I don?t. It?s easy to tell she?s in over her head and is tanking the program. But I also know how things work in reality. Unless there?s a scandal or something that embarrasses the University off the court, she ain?t going nowhere.
Joe won 8 games in year one which is still a really good season at MSU. Joe's first season while disappointing wasn't the disaster that McRray has been.
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