Recruiting staff- the elephant in the room

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Not to mention we are about to step up by another $20M or so with the new SEC network contact with ABC. But hey, at least we had money in our "rainy day fund" for when the pandemic hit instead of having it invested -- if only partly -- in more coaches/recruiters/strength & conditioning or retained coaches (think Huff to Bama a few years ago, etc).

With the increasing SEC revenues, it's time we start acting/coaching/playing like on of the Big Boys in the nation across ALL sports that we participate. And that's on Keenum and Cohen!!!

In some ways I wonder what planet you are on...

But, really we should take the chance on going all in balls to the wall. Reality is we will never have a shot at making that leap without taking the risk. Your admin and probably big donors don?t have that appetite.

[Todd4State]

In some ways I wonder what planet you are on...

But, really we should take the chance on going all in balls to the wall. Reality is we will never have a shot at making that leap without taking the risk. Your admin and probably big donors don?t have that appetite.

Why take risk when we can very easily invest legally in improving our program by investing more into recruiting? I'm talking 3-5 million dollars here for a program that is routinely in the black and can afford to invest that.

My belief is the donors and administration probably would invest if they were asked to. Dan had no clue and was average at recruiting. I guarantee you that if he told Byrne/Stricklin/Cohen and Keenum to invest into it we would have. Just like we built him the facilities he wanted. Dan just isn't into it. Joe was such a disorganized mess even if he was decent to good at recruiting. Leach is somewhere in the middle and has never really been considered a great recruiter. The biggest asset Leach has that I can tell in his short time here is he is way better at roster management than Dan ever was- which to me was honestly the worst thing by far about Dan's recruiting. You can develop all the players you want but you can't have like two classes in a row with no outside WR's and classes with like one offensive lineman that qualifies. That's why we had major issues- because even if the other position groups were well developed with juniors and seniors wherever there was a hole was usually plugged with freshmen out of necessity or like 5'9" WR's at the outside spot and people like Alabama and most bluebloods are going to absolutely expose that. Which is what happened time and time again. When Dan actually had a team of all juniors and seniors together 2014 happened. That's what we have to strive for as a program- to make sure that every position is covered.

Paying players is a separate discussion. We don't have to wholesale cheat to cover every spot- Leach came pretty close to that this year without wholesale cheating except at defensive back. And at least Leach is hitting the portal hard to try to fix that issue.

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Agree with you. I wasn?t referring to cheating specifically.

[Homedawg]

Why take risk when we can very easily invest legally in improving our program by investing more into recruiting? I'm talking 3-5 million dollars here for a program that is routinely in the black and can afford to invest that.

My belief is the donors and administration probably would invest if they were asked to. Dan had no clue and was average at recruiting. I guarantee you that if he told Byrne/Stricklin/Cohen and Keenum to invest into it we would have. Just like we built him the facilities he wanted. Dan just isn't into it. Joe was such a disorganized mess even if he was decent to good at recruiting. Leach is somewhere in the middle and has never really been considered a great recruiter. The biggest asset Leach has that I can tell in his short time here is he is way better at roster management than Dan ever was- which to me was honestly the worst thing by far about Dan's recruiting. You can develop all the players you want but you can't have like two classes in a row with no outside WR's and classes with like one offensive lineman that qualifies. That's why we had major issues- because even if the other position groups were well developed with juniors and seniors wherever there was a hole was usually plugged with freshmen out of necessity or like 5'9" WR's at the outside spot and people like Alabama and most bluebloods are going to absolutely expose that. Which is what happened time and time again. When Dan actually had a team of all juniors and seniors together 2014 happened. That's what we have to strive for as a program- to make sure that every position is covered.

Paying players is a separate discussion. We don't have to wholesale cheat to cover every spot- Leach came pretty close to that this year without wholesale cheating except at defensive back. And at least Leach is hitting the portal hard to try to fix that issue.

We can add 10 million of support staff and we'd sign the same types of classes. Mullen,moorhead and leach all signed the same types of classes. One worked at recruiting one does very little . And the other didn't go hard at it. Nothing has changed. It is what it is.

[Todd4State]

We can add 10 million of support staff and we'd sign the same types of classes. Mullen,moorhead and leach all signed the same types of classes. One worked at recruiting one does very little . And the other didn't go hard at it. Nothing has changed. It is what it is.

I'd rather sign those types of classes doing everything that we possibly could to get the best players we could get.