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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    1. We can't afford to expand the staff.
    2. Some of those names aren't an option
    3. Can't tie up that many people on instate.
    1. Giving that group significant raises in pay would cost less than 2 million. So, yes we can. Will we? Probably not.

    2. Those are just suggestions.

    3. And that's why we do recruit as well as we could/should.

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    Hopson's average classes at USM were 5th in C-USA. So that's pretty meh.

    I don't mind having someone with ties to Ole Miss in recruiting though. He might actually be able to teach us some things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I heard he was taking Villagrana's place. And it's not a bad hire even if he takes Peterson's place. It's not going to move the needle or anything, but some of y'all are overreacting.
    You heard wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    You heard wrong
    LOL ok. I still stand by what I said.

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    Prediction- Hopson somehow has a good relationship with a top recruit and olemiss swoops in and calls him home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlSwearengen View Post
    Prediction- Hopson somehow has a good relationship with a top recruit and olemiss swoops in and calls him home.
    He won't be that involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    1. We can't afford to expand the staff.
    2. Some of those names aren't an option
    3. Can't tie up that many people on instate.
    We absolutely can afford to expand the staff. Especially if you are talking about positions that pay $50k a year. Could hire 4 more people and it wouldn't cost more than $300k a year. But we could afford another $1M a year. No clue if that's a good use of the money or not, but we can afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    LOL ok. I still stand by what I said.
    You still want to stand by your statement???

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    “We need more coaches and staff members with Mississippi ties”.
    MSU possibly about to hire an ex College HEAD coach for an off the field position job that has Miss ties for almost 30 years.
    “What the **** are we doing.. Hopson sucks . No one likes him”.

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    Jay is liked by a lot of coaches in MS. I'm sure he has some enemies no doubt.

    I personally love Brad and have known him for a long time. But he has a lot of people in MS that don't like him, too. It happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    You still want to stand by your statement???
    That Jay Hopson isn't a terrible hire like some are making him out to be? Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    “We need more coaches and staff members with Mississippi ties”.
    MSU possibly about to hire an ex College HEAD coach for an off the field position job that has Miss ties for almost 30 years.
    “What the **** are we doing.. Hopson sucks . No one likes him”.
    Can we not find a coach with Mississippi ties that the high school coaches actually like? I mean- damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    ?We need more coaches and staff members with Mississippi ties?.
    MSU possibly about to hire an ex College HEAD coach for an off the field position job that has Miss ties for almost 30 years.
    ?What the **** are we doing.. Hopson sucks . No one likes him?.
    We're hiring him to help with recruiting. A coach that had 2 commits in Nov. and couldn't even recruit locally in a damn good recruiting area. It's not like he's a proven recruiter. AL hires proven guys. We hire a guy that couldn't sign anybody and pissed off local coaches. Sounds great!
    And I'm all for hiring former coaches normally.
    Last edited by Cooterpoot; 02-15-2021 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    That Jay Hopson isn't a terrible hire like some are making him out to be? Absolutely.
    No you said he wasn't taking Peterson place. And that's what I was referring too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    No you said he wasn't taking Peterson place. And that's what I was referring too
    You misunderstood. Not what I meant when I said i stood by what I said.
    Last edited by KOdawg1; 02-15-2021 at 03:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Can we not find a coach with Mississippi ties that the high school coaches actually like? I mean- damn.
    Many Mississippi HS football coaches believe the college coaches should be kissing their ass; and if they don’t then they don’t like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We're hiring him to help with recruiting. A coach that had 2 commits in Nov. and couldn't even recruit locally in a damn good recruiting area. It's not like he's a proven recruiter. AL hires proven guys. We hire a guy that couldn't sign anybody and pissed off local coaches. Sounds great!
    And I'm all for hiring former coaches normally.
    There’s a lot more to the position than just recruiting... a lot more
    His resume is pretty impressive . He is actually over qualified for this position to be honest
    He never had a losing record at USM
    He has been on the staff at multiple power 5 schools.
    How has Alcorn done since he left there ???

    So we shouldn’t hire a guy because a few high school coaches don’t like him ??

    Maybe he and CML get along.
    Maybe He moves to an on the field role in a few years .
    Maybe he has some connections outside the state with coaches.
    And I’m sure with JH on staff that high school coaches won’t veer their kids in other directions..
    I mean it’s not like he and a previous staff of his convinced a kid to flip from a rival school, and In turn not even offer the kid a scholarship days before NSD..

    Come on people.. geez
    And side note We ain’t Bama....
    Last edited by Ari Gold; 02-15-2021 at 04:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I heard he was taking Villagrana's place. And it's not a bad hire even if he takes Peterson's place. It's not going to move the needle or anything, but some of y'all are overreacting.
    Ok then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    Ok then
    Ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    There’s a lot more to the position than just recruiting... a lot more
    His resume is pretty impressive . He is actually over qualified for this position to be honest
    He never had a losing record at USM
    He has been on the staff at multiple power 5 schools.
    How has Alcorn done since he left there ???

    So we shouldn’t hire a guy because a few high school coaches don’t like him ??

    Maybe he and CML get along.
    Maybe He moves to an on the field role in a few years .
    Maybe he has some connections outside the state with coaches.
    And I’m sure with JH on staff that high school coaches won’t veer their kids in other directions..
    I mean it’s not like he and a previous staff of his convinced a kid to flip from a rival school, and In turn not even offer the kid a scholarship days before NSD..

    Come on people.. geez
    And side note We ain’t Bama....
    It's just that he seems like he's more of a fit for an analyst role than a recruiting coordinator role to me. So let's say he replaces Arnett in a year or two at DC. Then we have to hire another recruiting coordinator again.

    Honestly Hughes fits better at the RC role IMO. Hopson is probably a better on the field coach than Hughes. I mean, if you say Jay Hopson I have never ever heard anyone talk about what a great recruiter he is/was. See Will Hall at the same school being talked about as a great recruiter so it isn't a USM thing.

    Heck- I'd hire Reed Stringer as the RC before I hire Hopson and he was on Hopson's staff. At least that hire would make some sense.

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