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I think Cohen is the real problem.
Is he batting .500 with hires or is he in the .300?s? Both of those numbers are bad dependent on how many hires he?s made. Howland won?t be coaching much longer, and by that, I mean he will retire at some point. We might have to hire a new football coach in a few years, and we might be hiring a new WBB coach in a few also. Do we really want Captain Redass making anymore hires at this point?
Someone refresh my memory. Did Captain Redass interview Johnny for the HC position, or did she just stick with Vic by choice?
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Cann- good hire but couldn't keep it in his pants
Joe- bad hire
Lemonis- TBD but seems to be good so far
Leach- TBD
NMP- looks to be a bad hire
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The biggest problem here was losing Vic. I wish I knew the whole story but not sure I ever will. Second problem at least appears to be this hire. While it would have been almost impossible to have gotten a coach that kept things rolling at the level Schaefer did, what's going on right now is an abomination.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
The biggest problem here was losing Vic. I wish I knew the whole story but not sure I ever will. Second problem at least appears to be this hire. While it would have been almost impossible to have gotten a coach that kept things rolling at the level Schaefer did, what's going on right now is an abomination.
Nicki had a great player resume but she had basically Moorhead HC resume. It was a bad, bad hire for a program sitting in one of top in the nation. We were #2 in nation previous 4 year stretch only a few wins behind Uconn. We were one of top programs in nation and we hire a HC with little to no HC experience?? There were some major risks if Cohen had done his homework.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Nicki had a great player resume but she had basically Moorhead HC resume. It was a bad, bad hire for a program sitting in one of top in the nation. We were #2 in nation previous 4 year stretch only a few wins behind Uconn. We were one of top programs in nation and we hire a HC with little to no HC experience?? There were some major risks if Cohen had done his homework.
Was there another proven P5 women's basketball HC willing to come? I don't know. I would have preferred Harris over what we did but there would have been risk with that as well because Johnnie Harris had no HC experience. NMP had 2 twenty plus win years at ODU but that is CUSA so its certainly not the competition level of the major conferences.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
The biggest problem here was losing Vic. I wish I knew the whole story but not sure I ever will. Second problem at least appears to be this hire. While it would have been almost impossible to have gotten a coach that kept things rolling at the level Schaefer did, what's going on right now is an abomination.
I was my understanding that we gave Vic everything that UT offered, but home is home.
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Originally Posted by
Thick
I was my understanding that we gave Vic everything that UT offered, but home is home.
Yep, we are MState. Just can't have anything nice for very long. Still wish we had tried to keep continuity with the program by hiring Harris. But no guarantee that would have worked out either.
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Originally Posted by
Thick
I was my understanding that we gave Vic everything that UT offered, but home is home.
Vic went to Texas or aTm? Some reason I thought he went to aTm.
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Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
Vic went to Texas or aTm? Some reason I thought he went to aTm.
Grew up in Austin, went to Tam
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Originally Posted by
Thick
Is he batting .500 with hires or is he in the .300?s? Both of those numbers are bad dependent on how many hires he?s made. Howland won?t be coaching much longer, and by that, I mean he will retire at some point. We might have to hire a new football coach in a few years, and we might be hiring a new WBB coach in a few also. Do we really want Captain Redass making anymore hires at this point?
Someone refresh my memory. Did Captain Redass interview Johnny for the HC position, or did she just stick with Vic by choice?
I would like to know also, if Johnny was given a fair shake at the job, or was the initial thinking by Cohen is that we have a loaded team and will go get a homerun coach sitting already at a top 10 program to take the job.
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It's obvious Cohen was a mistake if for no other reason that he's the most hated AD since Templeton, and that's with traitor Stricklin in there.
People just don't like him. His own coach didn't like him. I'd love to have him as our baseball color guy. But AD was too much.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
It's obvious Cohen was a mistake if for no other reason that he's the most hated AD since Templeton, and that's with traitor Stricklin in there.
People just don't like him. His own coach didn't like him. I'd love to have him as our baseball color guy. But AD was too much.
The first clue with Moorhead should have been James Franklin helping him pack and backing the moving van up to his front door at 5am. He couldn't wait to get that guy gone. Huge red flag.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
The first clue with Moorhead should have been James Franklin helping him pack and backing the moving van up to his front door at 5am. He couldn't wait to get that guy gone. Huge red flag.
I bet he wishes he could move his ass back in at this point.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
The first clue with Moorhead should have been James Franklin helping him pack and backing the moving van up to his front door at 5am. He couldn't wait to get that guy gone. Huge red flag.
Not sure why Franklin would have been eager to get rid of Moorhead. Franklin's offense was very anemic before JM got there as the OC. Enough so that his job status was getting shaky.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Not sure why Franklin would have been eager to get rid of Moorhead. Franklin's offense was very anemic before JM got there as the OC. Enough so that his job status was getting shaky.
Moorhead's offense was shit at Penn State until Franklin put a leash on him as play caller. And having Saquon Barkley didn't hurt either.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Moorhead's offense was shit at Penn State until Franklin put a leash on him as play caller. And having Saquon Barkley didn't hurt either.
Not really following. The 2 years before Moorhead came to Penn St. (2014-2015) Franklin's offense ranked 111th and 105th in total offense. The 2 years Moorhead was there (2016-2017) they ranked 49th and 19th. A lot of people at the time thought Moorhead probably saved Franklin's job.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Cann- good hire but couldn't keep it in his pants
Joe- bad hire
Lemonis- TBD but seems to be good so far
Leach- TBD
NMP- looks to be a bad hire
I completely disagree that Cann was a good hire. The jury was still out on if he would have succeeded if he hadn?t got himself fired. He just inherited a loaded team with great leadership. We are just lucky Cann hired Gautreau.
Think about it. Cohen hired an assistant to run our best program. A year later, he was promising to bring in an experienced head coach who has coached at the high levels. It doesn?t add up. It was just Chapter 1 of Cohen trying to look smart.
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Originally Posted by
bulldogcountry1
I completely disagree that Cann was a good hire. The jury was still out on if he would have succeeded if he hadn?t got himself fired. He just inherited a loaded team with great leadership. We are just lucky Cann hired Gautreau.
Think about it. Cohen hired an assistant to run our best program. A year later, he was promising to bring in an experienced head coach who has coached at the high levels. It doesn?t add up. It was just Chapter 1 of Cohen trying to look smart.
Cann took a depleted pitching staff to a super regional. He was also recruiting at a high level. He was a good hire.
Last edited by KOdawg1; 01-17-2021 at 06:48 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
It's obvious Cohen was a mistake if for no other reason that he's the most hated AD since Templeton, and that's with traitor Stricklin in there.
People just don't like him. His own coach didn't like him. I'd love to have him as our baseball color guy. But AD was too much.
Do people dislike Cohen more than SS?
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Originally Posted by
bulldogcountry1
I completely disagree that Cann was a good hire. The jury was still out on if he would have succeeded if he hadn?t got himself fired. He just inherited a loaded team with great leadership. We are just lucky Cann hired Gautreau.
Think about it. Cohen hired an assistant to run our best program. A year later, he was promising to bring in an experienced head coach who has coached at the high levels. It doesn?t add up. It was just Chapter 1 of Cohen trying to look smart.
The 2017 baseball team can inherited was nowhere close to being loaded. Nowhere close. We had 3 guys who weren't pitchers pitching in sec games multiple times.
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