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Steve Sarkisian focuses on Alabama assistants, Mississippi State DC Zach Arnett for T
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Par for the course. I guess we might could get Grantham back if he is sick of Mullen's shit.
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Why can we never hold onto a DC?
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Senior Member
The question is, can Leach convince him to stay for a bit and build some more stock...
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Originally Posted by
Medic601
The question is, can Leach convince him to stay for a bit and build some more stock...
Build more stock than going to Texas?
That ain't happening. Unless he is content to wait for a HC position only.. which I doubt considering this was only his 3rd year of being a DC. Gonna need a few more years for someone to turn the keys over to their program.
I just hope for our sake he's not picked..
It's good that we have success but damn annoying to keep losing quality assistants.
*edit* 3 years
Last edited by ScoobaDawg; 01-05-2021 at 02:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Medic601
The question is, can Leach convince him to stay for a bit and build some more stock...
If Texas wants him, he'd be an idiot to stay.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
If Texas wants him, he'd be an idiot to stay.
Manny Diaz 2.0
Texas is a dying program. They've been through, what, 3 or 4 coaches since Mac Brown?
Herman is a good coach. He's going to show Texas is quicksand.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
If Texas wants him, he'd be an idiot to stay.
Not really. Manny Diaz liked the players he had here better.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
Not really. Manny Diaz liked the players he had here better.
That's a very bad example, Manny left us for Texas. Thanks for making my point. He never thought he would fail either. It's not like i want Arnett to leave. He's did a great job and his a nice guy. I've been around him numerous times in a casual setting.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
That's a very bad example, Manny left us for Texas. Thanks for making my point. He never thought he would fail either. It's not like i want Arnett to leave. He's did a great job and his a nice guy. I've been around him numerous times in a casual setting.
Hindsight 20/20 and all
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
If Texas wants him, he'd be an idiot to stay.
Why? It's not like that job is a spring board to the NFL. Manny Diaz probably would have become a head coach more quickly if he had stayed here instead of detouring through La Tech, back to MSU and then to Miami.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Why? It's not like that job is a spring board to the NFL. Manny Diaz probably would have become a head coach more quickly if he had stayed here instead of detouring through La Tech, back to MSU and then to Miami.
I said it earlier, they have a better chance to win their league, thus a better chance to win a national championship, have more resources, better recruiting base etc etc. only state people w glasses on would disagree.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I said it earlier, they have a better chance to win their league, thus a better chance to win a national championship, have more resources, better recruiting base etc etc. only state people w glasses on would disagree.
They have more resources- no one is debating that. But just because somewhere has more resources doesn't make it a better situation. A lot of bluebloods have internal issues. See Auburn.
With all of their resources- look at the kind of coaches that they are pulling. Herman came from Houston and we pulled Leach from a P5 school. Charlie Strong? And the guy that they just hired was a candidate for our job and we chose Leach over him.
I'm saying that sometimes it's better to wait than just jump at the first opportunity especially as a DC because those jobs come open much more frequently.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
If Texas wants him, he'd be an idiot to stay.
Then call him an idiot. Texas has internal issues and he doesn't want any part of it, per people inside the building. He may be filling us full of shit but he's telling his peers here he isn't interested, just like Odom told them he wasn't interested and just like Muschamp told them he isn't interested. We upped his salary to 7 figures. Of course Texas could pay him more if they really wanted to but they aren't going to pay a DC ten times more than the going rate that is as inexperienced as Arnett. They will just move on to the next guy.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
Then call him an idiot. Texas has internal issues and he doesn't want any part of it, per people inside the building. He may be filling us full of shit but he's telling his peers here he isn't interested, just like Odom told them he wasn't interested and just like Muschamp told them he isn't interested. We upped his salary to 7 figures. Of course Texas could pay him more if they really wanted to but they aren't going to pay a DC ten times more than the going rate that is as inexperienced as Arnett. They will just move on to the next guy.
Shouldn't over pay him. Or anyone w his experience for that matter.
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As good as Arnett is and as much as I want to keep him, we are going to have have a good defense most years (maybe 75% of the time?). Manny Diaz, Geoff Collins, Grantham, Bob Shoop, Arnett.......our players have proven they can make a lot of coaches look good. Just as important is that we keep the Strength and Conditioning program intact. Effort and tackling was the biggest difference year. We just have to make sure our DC has a hard edge. Peter Sirmon was too nice.
Last edited by CovertDawg; 01-05-2021 at 02:15 PM.
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Originally Posted by
CovertDawg
As good as Arnett is and as much as I want to keep him, we are going to have have a good defense most years (maybe 75% of the time?). Manny Diaz, Geoff Collins, Grantham, Bob Shoop, Arnett.......our players have proven they can make a lot of coaches look good. Just as important is that we keep the Strength and Conditioning program intact. Effort and tackling was the biggest difference year. We just have to make sure our DC has a hard edge. Peter Sirmon was too nice.
This is correct. D has been a constant at MSU through real bad coaches or not. Would like to keep Arnett though. Also is Texas really that great a job? The pressure and they have slipped. If we pay him, I don't see why he wouldn't stay. Every job isn't just about the money.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
This is correct. D has been a constant at MSU through real bad coaches or not. Would like to keep Arnett though. Also is Texas really that great a job? The pressure and they have slipped. If we pay him, I don't see why he wouldn't stay. Every job isn't just about the money.
Agree, they aren't all about the money. But, they have a better chance to win their league and like it or not, it's a better job. He is well paid here, if he leaves he will be well compensated wherever he goes. Remember NO coach thinks they are going to lose or not succeed. None. And if they do, you don't want them anyway. EGO. They ALL have it.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Agree, they aren't all about the money. But, they have a better chance to win their league and like it or not, it's a better job. He is well paid here, if he leaves he will be well compensated wherever he goes. Remember NO coach thinks they are going to lose or not succeed. None. And if they do, you don't want them anyway. EGO. They ALL have it.
This, pretty much nailed it.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
cue, shouldhaveflanked to blame Cohen......in 3,2,1.................
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