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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    Let me see if I can understand this. Probably won?t be able to because it is poppycock.

    When we criticize any coach, McCray-Pinson, Mike Leach, Dan Mullen, Ben Howland, Etc..., for not getting up off their lazy ass and getting up in the poor little ball players who may be sensitive because some kid pushed them down on the play ground in the 4th grade, WE ARE BEING RACIST!!!

    If you, a Christian can?t deal with that kind of stuff, what the heck are you going to do when the socialists the Woke crowd has been electing starts taking away your rights and tells you to get a number or a chip put on you so you can buy groceries? All the freaking snowflake poor little mistreated Americans have no clue because apparently they NEVER WATCHED WHEN THE ISLAMIST CUT THE HEADA OFF THE 20 COPTIC CHRISTIANS ON LIVE VIDEO BECAUSE THEY WOULDNT DENOUNCE CHRIST AS THEIR SAVIOR!!

    Don?t come preaching on here about feelings. GOD has a lot more important things on His mind as He sees Millions of Americans turn their backs to Him! HOW DARE YOU!!!! When millions of babies are aborted for convenience, you worry about the feelings of millionaires who are coaching a children?s game!!!! Get out of here. Go read the Bible again, And this time make sure you read it prayerfully. Because you missed the whole message!!!!
    God's mind is INFINITY, so he (Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) has NO LIMIT on what's important!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PendingTransaction View Post
    Thanks for this post. It needed to be said. It still baffles my mind when fans blatantly speak their prejudices and biases, often laced with their political views (maybe they can't be separated bc they are often one and the same). I understand that when your Pawpaw and Preacher ingrains it, it's who you are.

    Players and recruits read this stuff. I know the standard answers are: all fans do it and the players can't be so thin-skinned. But these young people use electronic forms as their primary means of communication. They are more conscious and sensitive to the underlying message in these post. MSU is not Bama...we don't have the luxury of losing good players/recruits due to some fans living in times past. And I know for a Fact that some tweets costed a football recruit this year.
    People are prejudice because the team lost to a bad team and a SEC home game? Get out of here with that bullshit! This team needs to find themselves a bit. Coach needs to fix some things too. They're a top 20 team where they were a top 5-10 team.

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    God doesn't "bring" anyone anywhere.

    Do we have free will or not? If not, then sure God can "open a door", in this case making Vic leave and Cohen think she was the best coaching option. But if Vic and Cohen didn't have a say in their actions, then she doesn't either, and what's the point of anything if we're just puppets?

    If we do have "free will", then the ONLY way this is God "opening a door" is if the Spirit was hinting at this course of action to everyone AND they listened.

    But even then, it's still up to everyone involved to listen- God didn't "bring her here" since she could have refused.

    And shame on you for thinking you know what God's will is! For all you know He wanted a different coach to be hired but Cohen didn't listen, or He wanted McCray-Pinson to wait a year for a different job. How arrogant to assume you know what God wants in the lives of others.

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    It's who you are. NM

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    So God reads Elitedawgs?

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    I could care less about her stance on race. I just want her to win. Right now, I am concerned but it?s still early and we need to let the season play out. It?s ok to criticize her because the effort seems a bit lacking although she is walking into a tough position replacing our best coach in history

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    I could care less about her stance on race. I just want her to win. Right now, I am concerned but it?s still early and we need to let the season play out. It?s ok to criticize her because the effort seems a bit lacking although she is walking into a tough position replacing our best coach in history
    I agree in some ways she did walk into a tough spot (who wants to follow Saban?) but in other ways she walked into gravy - the most talented women's team in MSU history. No one will do more with less like Vic did. Amazing what he did but we still were critical of Vic because he lost two NC. Worked them too hard day before the first one and just bad luck and officiating down the stretch on the second, not really Vic's fault.

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    Good grief. She’s losing with the most talented state team ever with the exception of perhaps one. Maybe. This has nothing to do with anything else. Stop being stupid and making it about anything else. Geez. And they don’t even look good when they play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Good grief. She’s losing with the most talented state team ever with the exception of perhaps one. Maybe. This has nothing to do with anything else. Stop being stupid and making it about anything else. Geez. And they don’t even look good when they play.
    So you're going to IGNORE Kentucky's talent???? Bet you UK finishes 1st, 2nd or 3rd baring injuries to Howard.

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    It's hard to follow the best coach on campus. And she needs to sign some bigs. We've loaded up on guards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    It's hard to follow the best coach on campus. And she needs to sign some bigs. We've loaded up on guards.
    This is the correct response!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh View Post
    This is the correct response!
    TAP. Total Agreement People. Keep it about sports, both sides, and you won't have to deal with political/race etc. opinions that can't help but feel personal at times.

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    Miss. State does have many good people (relative to variius definitions..general perceptions), but to deny the presence of bias and/or out right racist attitudes in the midst is to deceive yourself and others. Also, her speaking standing up on the racial tensions, injustice related issues hit personal with a lot of these people....they litterally couldn't help but expose themselves against her on these media platforms. These don't respect her or her players stance on these matters., acting out on social media (message boards, Twitter, ect), ect. Even bashing the woman's clothes. Were doing this type stuff even before the start of the season...before they had played or lost a single game. It's more than just a coaching thing or losing a couple of games with these people..it's more specific to her speaking out, protesting, and to some (not nearly all) her being a black woman. People have taken sides on these type issues all across the United States, other places, even Miss. State University...not immune..

    The one and only God (our Father in Heaven)...don't like ugly. Still, he's merciful, his arms are outstretched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdelta02 View Post
    Miss. State does have many good people (relative to variius definitions..general perceptions), but to deny the presence of bias and/or out right racist attitudes in the midst is to deceive yourself and others. Also, her speaking standing up on the racial tensions, injustice related issues hit personal with a lot of these people....they litterally couldn't help but expose themselves against her on these media platforms. These don't respect her or her players stance on these matters., acting out on social media (message boards, Twitter, ect), ect. Even bashing the woman's clothes. Were doing this type stuff even before the start of the season...before they had played or lost a single game. It's more than just a coaching thing or losing a couple of games with these people..it's more specific to her speaking out, protesting, and to some (not nearly all) her being a black woman. People have taken sides on these type issues all across the United States, other places, even Miss. State University...not immune..

    The one and only God (our Father in Heaven)...don't like ugly. Still, he's merciful, his arms are outstretched.
    Racist attitudes? Like what? Not liking her shirt (while petty and I don't care what she wears), is not being racist.

    Respect goes both ways. You are saying people are disrespecting because they don't agree with her or others. Then they are disrespecting them. You can't have it both ways.

    What you are assuming is racism may just be people who didn't want Vic gone. People don't like change especially when you had something good. That doesn't mean it is racism. In your mind, like so many others that are decieved they think white on black is racist but nothing else is. Again you can't see a person's heart if it is racist or not unless they say it outright. Heart is reserved for God. You need to leave the rest there. Again you gone way too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdelta02 View Post
    Miss. State does have many good people (relative to variius definitions..general perceptions), but to deny the presence of bias and/or out right racist attitudes in the midst is to deceive yourself and others. Also, her speaking standing up on the racial tensions, injustice related issues hit personal with a lot of these people....they litterally couldn't help but expose themselves against her on these media platforms. These don't respect her or her players stance on these matters., acting out on social media (message boards, Twitter, ect), ect. Even bashing the woman's clothes. Were doing this type stuff even before the start of the season...before they had played or lost a single game. It's more than just a coaching thing or losing a couple of games with these people..it's more specific to her speaking out, protesting, and to some (not nearly all) her being a black woman. People have taken sides on these type issues all across the United States, other places, even Miss. State University...not immune..

    The one and only God (our Father in Heaven)...don't like ugly. Still, he's merciful, his arms are outstretched.
    So then why didn't you post this when people were giving her a hard time about her stances on certain issues? You wait until she drops a couple of games and gets bashed for not doing her job like any other coach at state does when they lose games.

    We have an irrational fanbase especially on here with all of the coach bashing after every game/play but the bashing over the last couple of days has had absolutely zero to do with her stances on certain issues and everything to do with her losing a couple of games she probably shouldn't have lost.

    So are you wanting her to be treated differently than Ben Howland(who gets bashed after every game regardless of if we win or lose), Mike Leach(Took his fair share of fan abuse this year), John Cohen etc.? If you want her treated differently then I would think you may have the perception problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdelta02 View Post
    Miss. State does have many good people (relative to the definition), but to deny the presence of bias and/or out right racist attitudes in the midst is to deceive yourself and others. Also, her speaking standing up on the racial tensions, injustice related issues hit personal with a lot of these people....they litterally couldn't help but expose themselves against her on these media platforms. These don't respect her or her players stance on these matters., acting out on social media (message boards, Twitter, ect), ect. Even bashing the woman's clothes. Were doing this type stuff even before the start of the season...before they had played or lost a single game. People have have taken sides on these issues all across the United States, other places, even Miss. State University...not immuned

    The one and only God (our Father in Heaven)...don't like ugly. Still, he's merciful, his arms are outstretched.
    I couldn't tell you one social issue she's commented on. I don't deal in the twitters. I also think people making a big deal out of her shirt is silly as hell.
    But criticizing the teams performance is a separate deal. We couldn't even run a set to get the ball to either of our best two players the last 3 mins of the game and overtime. KY was able to get their best player open so much she won the game by herself basically. They play out of control on offense and little defense at times. They aren't playing like a sweet 16 team and they've got elite 8 or final 4 talent. Just how it is.

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    She is no different than Howland. Both lost games this week they had no business losing. Both should get heavy criticism and it has nothing to do with race. This is big time sports and when you lose games you have no business losing, you deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobcat91 View Post
    She is no different than Howland. Both lost games this week they had no business losing. Both should get heavy criticism and it has nothing to do with race. This is big time sports and when you lose games you have no business losing, you deserve it.
    In the words of the great Jack Cristil: ?bobcat91 SLAMS IT IN THE GOAL!?

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    She is following the best women's coach is school history who elevated the program to a Top 10 in the country program. Anything less than that and she will be considered a failure.

    Thats the bottom line. She inherited a top 10 basketball team- finishing less than that and she will be considered a failure. You cant say this team lacks talent- it's simply untrue.

    Just Win Baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    She is following the best women's coach is school history who elevated the program to a Top 10 in the country program. Anything less than that and she will be considered a failure.

    Thats the bottom line. She inherited a top 10 basketball team- finishing less than that and she will be considered a failure. You cant say this team lacks talent- it's simply untrue.

    Just Win Baby.
    That's how I view it too. Same with Moorhead in '18, or Lemones his first year. All had stacked rosters in year 1 and we fans didn't care about anything but winning. Moorhead couldn't and lost the fanbase. Lemo did meet expectations (omaha) and nobody had an issue with him. Win the pot when you're dealt a good hand, end of story.

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