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Originally Posted by
smootness
Totally different. While I was shocked an NFL team actually hired Kingsbury, they did it because he was synonymous with the Air Raid and was a sexy name.
Nothing about Mullen would excite any NFL fan base, and while he's had success in college, he hasn't had enough and doesn't run a system they want.
The NFL is full of boring no name coaches. As a matter of fact I bet you can't name 20 NFL coaches.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
The NFL is full of boring no name coaches. As a matter of fact I bet you can't name 20 NFL coaches.
Bill Belicheck, Joe Judge, Kliff Kingsbury, Pete Carrol, Bruce Arians, Ron Rivera, Mike McCarthy, Doug Pederson, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Mike Zimmer, Mike Vrabel, Sean McDermott, Matt LaFleur, Jon Gruden, Sean McVay, Matt Rhule and Kyle Shanahan.
Not trying to argue with you, I just wanted to see if I could do it off the top of my head lol. But to your credit, 20 is all I could think of.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Bill Belicheck, Joe Judge, Kliff Kingsbury, Pete Carrol, Bruce Arians, Ron Rivera, Mike McCarthy, Doug Pederson, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Mike Zimmer, Mike Vrabel, Sean McDermott, Matt LaFleur, Jon Gruden, Sean McVay, Matt Rhule and Kyle Shanahan.
Not trying to argue with you, I just wanted to see if I could do it off the top of my head lol. But to your credit, 20 is all I could think of.
Niceee! I had to rep you for getting to 20.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Totally different. While I was shocked an NFL team actually hired Kingsbury, they did it because he was synonymous with the Air Raid and was a sexy name.
Nothing about Mullen would excite any NFL fan base, and while he's had success in college, he hasn't had enough and doesn't run a system they want.
What? Kingsbury was nothing. He was fired at TTU as an HC and considered a good catch by USC as OC. He was no more flashy a name than Muschamp would be. Gus had 10x the resume.
Kingsbury was hired because they thought his scheme would work and he could manage NFL personalities. Basically they thought his college problems was recruiting.
Mullen -if he is hired- will be hired for the same reasons. He's always adapted his O's to his personnel, and is a QB savant. Unlike Kingsbury he's shown he can build a program, and emphasize things like physicality. I don't think his personality meshes well in the player focused NFL, but there's plenty of reasons an NFL team would want him.
He has 5x the name recognition and resume as Kliff did. He's far higher respected too; Kliff had to take a blue blood OC job, if Mullen was fired 2 weeks ago he'd be at Auburn or Texas as their HC. Kliff worked out, but in no way was Kliff a "sexy name" and Mullen not
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
What? Kingsbury was nothing. He was fired at TTU as an HC and considered a good catch by USC as OC. He was no more flashy a name than Muschamp would be. Gus had 10x the resume.
Kingsbury was hired because they thought his scheme would work and he could manage NFL personalities. Basically they thought his college problems was recruiting.
Mullen -if he is hired- will be hired for the same reasons. He's always adapted his O's to his personnel, and is a QB savant. Unlike Kingsbury he's shown he can build a program, and emphasize things like physicality. I don't think his personality meshes well in the player focused NFL, but there's plenty of reasons an NFL team would want him.
He has 5x the name recognition and resume as Kliff did. He's far higher respected too; Kliff had to take a blue blood OC job, if Mullen was fired 2 weeks ago he'd be at Auburn or Texas as their HC. Kliff worked out, but in no way was Kliff a "sexy name" and Mullen not
I think Dan would do OK in the NFL with a good roster. Obviously if he's taking over an expansion team or something like that he's going to suck.
To me his biggest weakness was his recruiting. He won't have to do that in the NFL. And the other thing is he would go way conservative against a superior team like Alabama. In the NFL there isn't an Alabama really although yes there are dynasty's. So I suspect he would be Ok play calling in the NFL based on how he play calls against teams with relatively equal or worse talent. The thing about that though is he may have to hire an OC. I'm not sure how many NFL coaches call their own plays but I'm pretty sure every team has an OC that can call plays while the head coach is managing the team at least at times. I don't know who Dan would hire as his OC so that would be interesting to me to see what direction he goes with that. I'd be kind of curious to see if he reunites with Sallach at TE coach.
I think his offense will be OK too. See Trask. And it worked fine with Dak too where we threw the ball a good bit.
One question I do have is who would be on his defensive staff. I think that might be why he is keeping Grantham at least in part. Grantham has some NFL experience. I know Brian Baker and Deshea Townsend have NFL experience and I think Dan would bring Christian Robinson with him. Maybe Dan will hire some of our former players as assistants- Johnthan Banks as a defensive assistant?
He would also have to hire a ST coach- LOL. Maybe he goes out and gets Chris Boniol?
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
The NFL is full of boring no name coaches. As a matter of fact I bet you can't name 20 NFL coaches.
Yeah, and if you don't care about getting a coach that will excite people, there are 50 candidates you might hire before Mullen.
Kingsbury was hired partly to excite people because of the offense he runs. If you do care about that, you definitely won't hire Mullen. So he had something going for him that Mullen doesn't.
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Twitter verse now reporting Mullen has an interview in Atlanta.
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Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
Twitter verse now reporting Mullen has an interview in Atlanta.
If Dan was the hire in ATL, which I don't think he will be, that would tell me that ATL is planning on a full rebuild and will draft a QB in the first or take Trask on Day 2 and let him sit behind Ryan for a year.
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Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
Twitter verse now reporting Mullen has an interview in Atlanta.
Pretty sure smoot is a falcon guy, so that would be funny if he gets the job
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
How did he do the two years before ?
In '18 28th in Total D, 20 in scoring. '17 is irrelevant to UF fans since he was at MSU.
I'm not agreeing with them, I like Grantham - but they had a Sirmon-ish defense this year compared to a typical UF defense.
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This is bullshit...no way Mullen is on the hot seat
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
In '18 28th in Total D, 20 in scoring. '17 is irrelevant to UF fans since he was at MSU.
I'm not agreeing with them, I like Grantham - but they had a Sirmon-ish defense this year compared to a typical UF defense.
Didn?t they have a lot of defensive players graduate and/or move on last year?
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
That's a good point. I'm not really saying that Bryant was better. But between 77-80 Bryant may have been more dominant than Saban in any three year stretch- for now at least. It's inevitable that Saban is going to have more National Titles than Bear at Alabama. I'm wondering if he wants to win more games than the Bear a well.
Such completely different eras to say who was better. It?s a matter of opinion to most. But saban won 3 in the bcs era so the popular vote nonsense is not a debate
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I'm not sure there is a more "all in for football than" Alabama! They had tradition way back but fell off the wagon till the Bear came calling when momma called. He pretty much built Bama, Saban has as much resources needed as any football program in the country. Both are the GOATS imo.
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According to this Leach is #6 on the hot seat...hahahahah https://www.coacheshotseat.com/
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Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
Only hot seat for Leach right now is his chair out in the sun in Key West.
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