Well guys i will see my fellow dogs in 2021...being deployed to Cali. I have the

[dawgoneyall]

I didn't say that. I'm talking in general. But there ARE serious known side effects regarding Plaquenil, though I'm not sure how often they occur. You can check them out on any reputable pharmaceutical website.

It has to be taken for an extended period to have serious side effects...I assume you are talking about plaquenil maculopathy and corneal deposition.

Bottom line....plaquenil is a very safe drug.

[SheltonChoked]

We can go back to normal if the ones that wanna take it do, and the ones that don't want to don't. Maybe the ones that don't take vaccine will get it who knows, but the people taking vaccine by definition shouldn't get it regardless.

I ain't taking no vaccine, regardless of who makes it or touts it. I get Covid I'm gonna insist on Hydroxy, Azithromycin, and Zinc.

You might as well insist on Leeches and bloodletting.

[Liverpooldawg]

You might as well insist on Leeches and bloodletting.

He just did.

[SheltonChoked]

I don't think HE knows that.

But I'll give him some more "Covid Treatment options" if he wants:

He should try a pocket full of poseys, Rubbing onions, herbs or a chopped up snake on you or cutting up a pigeon and rubbing it over an infected body. You could also try Drinking vinegar, eating crushed minerals, arsenic, mercury or even ten-year-old treacle.

[dawgday166]

You might as well insist on Leeches and bloodletting.

At least it would be my choice ... not some doctor's whose financial interests lies with the drug he's promoting.

Got someone who works for me that got Covid. About 70 years old. Developed pneumonia week and half ago on Monday 12/7. Doctor prescribed a protocol that included Fauci's "promising" drug Remdesivir ($1000/dose). He went into ICU on Wednesday and is still there on ventilator fighting for his life (9 days). So much for "science".

I'll take the leeches and bloodletting. Those other doctors that promote the protocol I said I would take, are doctors too. However, they ain't getting any kickbacks or/and are financially invested in that protocol tho. Forrest for the trees Lieutenant, forest for the trees.

[Joebob]

At least it would be my choice ... not some doctor's whose financial interests lies with the drug he's promoting.

Got someone who works for me that got Covid. About 70 years old. Developed pneumonia week and half ago on Monday 12/7. Doctor prescribed a protocol that included Fauci's "promising" drug Remdesivir ($1000/dose). He went into ICU on Wednesday and is still there on ventilator fighting for his life (9 days). So much for "science".

I'll take the leeches and bloodletting. Those other doctors that promote the protocol I said I would take, are doctors too. However, they ain't getting any kickbacks or/and are financially invested in that protocol tho. Forrest for the trees Lieutenant, forest for the trees.

How the hell do you know that doctors that administer Remdesivir are promoting it? You don't, and the overwhelming majority of them aren't.

Even your boy Trump took Remdesivir.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...treatment.html

[Mobile Bay]

At least it would be my choice ... not some doctor's whose financial interests lies with the drug he's promoting.

Got someone who works for me that got Covid. About 70 years old. Developed pneumonia week and half ago on Monday 12/7. Doctor prescribed a protocol that included Fauci's "promising" drug Remdesivir ($1000/dose). He went into ICU on Wednesday and is still there on ventilator fighting for his life (9 days). So much for "science".

I'll take the leeches and bloodletting. Those other doctors that promote the protocol I said I would take, are doctors too. However, they ain't getting any kickbacks or/and are financially invested in that protocol tho. Forrest for the trees Lieutenant, forest for the trees.

Next you will be telling us a tin foil hat stops the COVID.

[Liverpooldawg]

We can go back to normal if the ones that wanna take it do, and the ones that don't want to don't. Maybe the ones that don't take vaccine will get it who knows, but the people taking vaccine by definition shouldn't get it regardless.

I ain't taking no vaccine, regardless of who makes it or touts it. I get Covid I'm gonna insist on Hydroxy, Azithromycin, and Zinc.

No we can't. There is still the hospital situation. THAT affects those that take it just as much as the ones who don't. Also, NO vaccine is 100% effective and those that don't take it will still be spreading it. The restrictions will continue as long as that is happening.

[Dawgology]

No we can't. There is still the hospital situation. THAT affects those that take it just as much as the ones who don't. Also, NO vaccine is 100% effective and those that don't take it will still be spreading it. The restrictions will continue as long as that is happening.

Initial trials indicate a 95%+ efficacy. That’s higher efficacy than almost any other vaccine out there.

[Liverpooldawg]

Initial trials indicate a 95%+ efficacy. That’s higher efficacy than almost any other vaccine out there.

Yes. That still doesn't change anything unless enough people take it. We will not go back to normal if that doesn't happen. I don't get the resistance to this. I grew up being lined up and vaccinated at school for things that we have pretty much eradicated in the US, 100% due to vaccines. Ask people a little older than me about polio summer.

[Johnson85]

Initial trials indicate a 95%+ efficacy. That?s higher efficacy than almost any other vaccine out there.

That's because it's easier to come up with a man-made treatment for a man-made virus.**

[RougeDawg]

Hell no. Go look at the fine print of these vaccines, or any type of vaccine of this sort.

Secondly, why did the AMA come out this week and say hydroxychloroquine is effective against Covid? Why are the American media and government officials mum on all these trials showing Ivermectin is great at preventing Covid infections?

Follow the money. Big pharma can?t make money on cheap ivermectin that?s used on animals or $0.50 a pill hydroxychloroquine. And politicians won?t get big pharma campaign donations if they allow these cheap, effective drugs to be promoted.

Educate yourself before you take anything the government provides. For anyone interested, go research the Austrialing vaccine trial and why it was stopped. If that doesn?t raise any questions, continue on trusting any and everyone.

[Mobile Bay]

Hell no. Go look at the fine print of these vaccines, or any type of vaccine of this sort.

Secondly, why did the AMA come out this week and say hydroxychloroquine is effective against Covid? Why are the American media and government officials mum on all these trials showing Ivermectin is great at preventing Covid infections?

Follow the money. Big pharma can?t make money on cheap ivermectin that?s used on animals or $0.50 a pill hydroxychloroquine. And politicians won?t get big pharma campaign donations if they allow these cheap, effective drugs to be promoted.

Educate yourself before you take anything the government provides. For anyone interested, go research the Austrialing vaccine trial and why it was stopped. If that doesn?t raise any questions, continue on trusting any and everyone.

Please stop confusing science with talk radio.

[RougeDawg]

Please stop confusing science with talk radio.

How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...ainst-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-gras...erapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/ar...ou-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article...898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answer...virus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...k-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it’s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

[SheltonChoked]

How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...ainst-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-gras...erapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/ar...ou-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article...898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answer...virus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...k-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it?s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

This is what the AMA has posted on their website and not buried on page 18 of the meeting minutes...
https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...sked-questions

3. How do I treat patients with confirmed COVID-19?
People with COVID-19 should receive supportive care to help relieve symptoms either at home or in a clinical setting as symptoms demand. For severe cases, treatment should include care to support vital organ functions.

At present, no drug has been proven to be safe and effective for treating COVID-19. There are no Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved drugs specifically to treat patients with COVID-19.

Some patients with COVID-19 have received intravenous remdesivir, an investigational antiviral drug that was reported to have in-vitro activity against SARS-CoV-2, for compassionate use outside of a clinical trial setting.

As of June 15, the FDA has revoked emergency use authorization of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19.

In the event that an adverse drug event is suspected or observed from any medication used to prevent or treat COVID-19, we urge health care providers to submit a report to FDA MedWatch. COVID-19 or coronavirus should be referenced in the report to the FDA.

Read the NIH Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Treatment Guidelines.

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/

In the earliest stages of infection, before the host has mounted an effective immune response, anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody-based therapies may have their greatest likelihood of having an effect. In this regard, although there are insufficient data from clinical trials to recommend either for or against the use of any specific therapy in this setting, preliminary data suggests that outpatients may benefit from receiving anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies early in the course of infection. The anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies bamlanivimab and casirivimab plus imdevimab are available through Emergency Use Authorizations for outpatients who are at high risk for disease progression.

Remdesivir, an antiviral agent, is currently the only drug that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration for the treatment of COVID-19. It is recommended for use in hospitalized patients who require supplemental oxygen. However, it is not routinely recommended for patients who require mechanical ventilation due to the lack of data showing benefit at this advanced stage of the disease.1-4

Dexamethasone, a corticosteroid, has been found to improve survival in hospitalized patients who require supplemental oxygen, with the greatest effect observed in patients who require mechanical ventilation. Therefore, the use of dexamethasone is strongly recommended in this setting.5-8

You would think the NIH would have grasped 2nd year biology by now.

PS links for Vitamin C, D and Zinc Treatments.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...apy/vitamin-c/

There are insufficient data for the COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel (the Panel) to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin C for the treatment of COVID-19 in non-critically ill patients.

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...apy/vitamin-d/

There are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin D for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...-therapy/zinc/

Recommendations
There are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of zinc for the treatment of COVID-19.
The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel (the Panel) recommends against using zinc supplementation above the recommended dietary allowance for the prevention of COVID-19, except in a clinical trial (BIII).

[Mobile Bay]

How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...ainst-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-gras...erapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/ar...ou-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article...898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answer...virus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...k-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it’s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

Claims to follow the science, then posts articles that are not scientific

Source 1. The Australian vaccine is a different vaccine and was halted because it has problems.

Source 2. WebMD It says I have a hangnail or cancer.

Source 3. Ahh, anecdotes from the scientific mecca of Peru. Published by a website that I can find not much on there that isn't sensationalized.

Source 4. CNS News? Like I said, stop getting your science from talk radio.

The remaining ones discuss ongoing trials.



And then wonders why I doubt he has the same Chemical Engineering degree I do.

[Liverpooldawg]

How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...ainst-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-gras...erapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/ar...ou-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article...898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answer...virus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...k-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it?s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

You do know what off label use is don't you? You do know what in virtro means don't you? I take it you don't. Also, the AMA plays no part in approving medicines. I still haven't seen anything reliable reporting it. You seem to have embraced every crackpot scheme and idea out there. No wonder we can't get a handle on this thing. You are still linking articles from APRIL. LOL.

[fishwater99]

How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...ainst-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-gras...erapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/ar...ou-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article...898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answer...virus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...k-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it?s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

So you are saying not to take the vaccine ?

[Liverpooldawg]

Hell no. Go look at the fine print of these vaccines, or any type of vaccine of this sort.

Secondly, why did the AMA come out this week and say hydroxychloroquine is effective against Covid? Why are the American media and government officials mum on all these trials showing Ivermectin is great at preventing Covid infections?

Follow the money. Big pharma can?t make money on cheap ivermectin that?s used on animals or $0.50 a pill hydroxychloroquine. And politicians won?t get big pharma campaign donations if they allow these cheap, effective drugs to be promoted.

Educate yourself before you take anything the government provides. For anyone interested, go research the Austrialing vaccine trial and why it was stopped. If that doesn?t raise any questions, continue on trusting any and everyone.

I have looked that AMA claim up. The ONLY places it turns up are sites I have never heard of. Do you have a link to something reliable?

[Dawgbite]

I’ll take the vaccine as soon as it’s available to me which will be much later. I’m not essential, I’m not that old yet and the fact that I’m retired means I can pretty much avoid situations that I deem risky. You may have taken a flu shot and ultimately gotten the flu but these two are in no way related. There is some concern of long term side effects but that exist with everything that we eat, drink, and breath. I’ll take a chance that the side effects of eating red meat and drinking beer will get me before the side effects of a vaccine.